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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby awaken1977 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:05 pm

12 sec or so

all switches on
engine dies, when I turn isolation switch from startup to run position.
do I need to allow engine to run some time, before to do that?

also, engine dies, when I switch to the cab of other (still cold) engine. in thic case, also sound alarm turn on
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby mrennie » Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:05 pm

awaken1977 wrote:I'm following startup procedure described in the manual,
or in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-JxpYCPJZg

But, engine dies shortly after startup

all fuses in the black field set to on;
isolation switch in startup mode, when I try to set it to "Run" mode, alarm sounds and red light goes on (battery charge)
am I missed something?


Did you remember to lift the battery knife switch up (it's just above the bottom black panel)?
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby awaken1977 » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:13 pm

Here is my recorded startup sequence.
Leading engine powered - OK.
but when I move to the second engine, leading engine dies and I hear the alarm sound all the time, until second engine powered up

what is correct startup sequence for multiple engines?

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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby awaken1977 » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:59 am

VRC wrote:I see you have your start up sequence down now. You do not have to start multiple engines. If they are lashed together, then they will start up together. As soon as you touch an engine control surface, you take control of the consist from that locomotive. Now you can touch other stuff, like the horn, lights, windows, doors, etc. We made things complicated but not so complicated that you have to start each loco, though it could probably be done.


Oh, I see. I got this habit after Reppo's GP20, where each engine is independent, and need to be started individually .
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby PapaXpress » Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:14 am

awaken1977 wrote:
VRC wrote:I see you have your start up sequence down now. You do not have to start multiple engines. If they are lashed together, then they will start up together. As soon as you touch an engine control surface, you take control of the consist from that locomotive. Now you can touch other stuff, like the horn, lights, windows, doors, etc. We made things complicated but not so complicated that you have to start each loco, though it could probably be done.


Oh, I see. I got this habit after Reppo's GP20, where each engine is independent, and need to be started individually .


Once I can get the brake cutout working the way it should then we can revisit this.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby BNSFdude » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:43 pm

The Gen Field should not have to be on to start it. I totally forgot to mention that during beta because I figured Rich S would've nailed that right away.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby Rich_S » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:57 pm

BNSFdude wrote:The Gen Field should not have to be on to start it. I totally forgot to mention that during beta because I figured Rich S would've nailed that right away.


Unless something has changed from the beta version to the release version, the gen field slider switch on the control stand can be in the down position and the locomotive will start.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby Rich_S » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:02 pm

Rich_S wrote:
BNSFdude wrote:The Gen Field should not have to be on to start it. I totally forgot to mention that during beta because I figured Rich S would've nailed that right away.


Unless something has changed from the beta version to the release version, the gen field slider switch on the control stand can be in the down position and the locomotive will start.


As a follow up, something strange is going on with the Chessie System (C&O) GP40-2. It will only start for me using the "Z" key. The CSX GP40-2 will start with the gen field slider switch in the down position and all breakers in the black area on. Prime then start and diesel engine starts. It seems there is an issue between the Chessie GP40-2 scripts and the CSX GP40-2 scripts?
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby PapaXpress » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:32 pm

That is strange. They all share the same library. I will look into it this week.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby mikeg1250 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:23 am

I think the problem between the Chessie and CSX engines is the Isolation switch. The Start/Stop/Isolate position on the Chessie engines is at 12 o'clock while the CSX's is at 3 o'clock. If you leave the Chessie engines in the 3 o'clock position (run) it will crank. However, I am having trouble keeping the Chessie units running.

Update: It the B&O Chessie engine that I can get started but can't keep running. The Western Maryland unit won't crank at all. I noticed that in the video VRC posted, you are able to rotate the Start/Isolate/Run switch to the 9 o'clock position (start), but on my model I can not. Could this be the issue?
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby GP15Dash1 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:02 am

I can confirm Mike's findings. I see the same thing he does.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby mikeg1250 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:22 pm

When can we expect the update?
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:01 am

mikeg1250 wrote:When can we expect the update?


TS2015 drops on the 18th, we don't know if it will cause issues with our product or not. Therefore the decision was made to delay releasing a patch until after we find out what the damage (if any) will be and fix that if needed.
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby mikeg1250 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:25 am

Sounds like a wise move....we'll be patiently waiting *!!thnx!!*

BTW if no one else has mentioned it, your Chessie paint job is OUTSTANDING!!!! A very hard scheme to get to look right and I think you nailed it **!!bow!!**
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Re: The complexity of operation...

Unread postby awaken1977 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 7:42 am

I forgot to mention
There is one minor thing - texture quality in the cab. lettering on some switches and buttons is so blurry, hard to read (because of low resolution, I guess)
is it planned to be improved with next updates?
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