New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

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New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:04 am

Tried so many different types but none of the "Under_tight_bridge" etc... are it. I found a blue object called Occlusion Object or something on a German route under some bridges but it didn't seem to do anything. Anyone know how the echo functions?
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby gleno747 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:19 am

I'm not 100% sure but I think it happens when you lay track in the editor. When you select the track to be laid the right hand fly out menu has the settings for the track. There is a drop down menu next the the icon of a speaker on rails, this is where you select the tunnel or bridge sounds.
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:55 pm

Tried that. I think there's more to it. The track sounds that you're talking about are instant, and fairly quiet. I'm pretty sure that the echo must be achieved using some sort of occlusion, probably not defined in the track itself. I'll keep investigating.
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:27 pm

I had my EFX turned off *!embar*! Found it. It was on the Munich route. It's a occlusion block. There's also occlusion blocks for tunnels and rain!
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:51 pm

You were right. It is just in the track. Sounds pretty cool. Hopefully I can create some sort of sound occlusion so the vehicles travelling over the bridge can't be heard so well from underneath.
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby raptorengineer » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:31 am

ok i trying to get the tunnel echo sounds to work on my route using donner pass content and it dosen't work. but the tunnel echo sounds work on other route templets like cajon pass. the tunnel echo sounds is called tunnel occlusion volume. has anyone else got it to work in donner pass.
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:44 am

First of all check that EFX is on.

I actually used "Under tight bridge" as my route doesn't have any tunnels. The sounds are part of Scalerail and reference the default Kuju sounds. If you have RW_tools, open up some of the Donner Pass track and see what sounds are loaded into them. Scalerail and most others look like this...

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Unfortunately, if you're using Donner Pass track and it hasn't got the right sounds loaded, there's not much you can do about it. You can modify it but no one will want to use it because it will effect their default DP files.
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Re: New tunnel/bridge echo sounds...

Unread postby NDORFN » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:58 am

I had a look at Donner Pass for you. Sorry to say there are no track sounds at all. There's a section in the track code for sounds but it's all empty fields. Good effort huh? You might want to consider using Scalerail for your route. It looks second-to-none, there's more variety and almost all the track sounds are there. The only sounds that are missing are bridges, but Marc reckons he's going to update it when he gets over a nasty HD crash *!lol!*
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