Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby Bananarama » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:22 am

I believe that one died on the vine long ago.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby Bananarama » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:34 pm

The Orin Sub extends from Donkey Creek (north end), where it connects to the Black Hills Sub, and Orin Jct (south end), where it connects to the Casper Sub. UPRR/BNSF shared track is between Caballo Jct. just south of Donkey Creek, to Shawnee Jct. just north of Orin Jct.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:32 pm

SD40Australia wrote:Oh how I wish developers would upload their work! When they have had enough just share.....


I tried researching this particular Joint Track with BNSF/UPRR but didn't have much info. Anyone care to share?
Which station does it start from?

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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby McCRRR19 » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:37 pm

SD40Australia wrote:When I complete the Trans-Australia Line route (section of it adjoining with the Koolyanobbing-Kalgoorlie section of the Kwinana-Kalgoorlie Standard Gauge Railway) and the Seligman-Needles Subdivision I may attempt to build this route.


If you're interested in doing the Orin Line, I can probably answer most questions you would have. I work for BNSF out of Gillette and I frequently work the Gillette-Guernsey Pool. But if you do the Orin Sub, you might want to also consider including the Campbell Sub and Canyon Sub as well. Like I said, I'll be happy to do my best to answer any questions you have in regards to the Orin Line.

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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:22 pm

Hi all! I actually had this route started and about 20 miles or so of mainline done; I started south of Bill and worked my way North to Bill. I had the Progress Rail Facility complete along with a custom made building and I made it all the way to Bill and had the UP yard complete with a custom yard office done and the UP water tower. And then all of a sudden my computer decided it play games with me. I came back from a business trip and the route was gone; completely gone. I was so livid I wanted to ditch RW all together, but Coaltrain talked me out of it. I do plan to restart this venture, but I do not want to step on any toes doing this route nor do I want to compete with anyone else. I am currently working on another route which will take me at a minimum 6 months to complete due to the amount of detail I am putting in it. At the completion of that, I am going to reembark on the Orin; the plan with this is to build as many custom assets as I can as all of mine up there differ from on another. I didn't want to announce anything because I didn't want it to become Vaporware, but I was logging progress over at the VREA: http://railroadersonline.freeforums.net ... ubdivision And I did have a back-up copy that for some reason or another failed to load properly, so it's back to square one I reckon.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby Chacal » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:03 pm

emdsd90mac wrote:I came back from a business trip and the route was gone; completely gone.


This is unlikely. Most probably you can't find it again.
Have you asked a friendly techie for help? Surely you know someone who can search for the missing files on your computer.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby conrail1 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:24 pm

did you do sytem recovery?
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:32 pm

No, no system recovery. My install was acting really strange and since then I have done a complete reinstall of Steam. I'll have to play around more with the back up files I have to see if I can get them to work. Here are some screen shots of some of the progress I had done.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby buzz456 » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:47 pm

I don't want to single you out but this is the second lost work in less than a week. Backup, backup, backup people. If you think Chis or someone who really knows what they are talking about to write a tutorial please say so. I have had every computer catastrophe known to man befall me in the last five years and have not lost one bit of data, This isn't rocket science folks.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby arizonachris » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:03 am

Making a backup is easy. RSTools has a built in backup feature, for one thing. I just copy-and-paste my "steamapps" folder, along with my Documents folder, onto a second internal hard drive. I make a new "copy" when I've added more "stuff" that I've downloaded/ installed to TS, or after I've installed a new game. I don't use Windows Backup, nor the Steam Backup; haven't had good success with either. There are other programs that make backups, like Acronis True Image, but so far my simple way works OK for me.

If you're not good with the inner workings of a PC, or have a laptop, just get an external USB drive. 500Gb is $50 or less. Some come with copy software, it's up to you, what works and is easy for you to use. If you are building your route in TS, then all you should need to backup is the Railworks folder, and any other third party assets you are using. I copy the entire "steamapps" folder because I have many other games installed. And my Documents is where I keep a copy of third party "stuff" for TS, so that's why it gets copied.

File recovery is possible IF all that has been lost/ erased is the file's name in the drive's index/ file allocation table (which is basically what Windows Uninstall does). Do a search over at "Majorgeeks.com" for recovery software. But if your reinstall of Steam overwrote any of the files that may have still been there, they are lost for good. And sometimes Windows just doesn't like the backup method you used, but Explorer will "see" the files and let you paste them into your new work.

System Recovery, as conrail1 asked about, is usually done with a recovery disk that is either provided by the maker of the PC/ laptop or made thru Windows by you for your system. (this is different from System Restore) And that is hit-and-miss as far as recovering lost files. I did manage to recover 90% of a friend's hard drive after a nasty virus attack a few years back using an HP Recovery disk.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:12 am

Thanks AZchris for the info on that. I have since come up with a way that will hopefully prevent this in the future. I think all can agree that it is very frustrating when something like this happens and you see many months worth of work gone at the blink of an eye.

Buzz, yes I will start backing up multiple time from now on so I can stop pulling my hair out.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:30 am

Not to shill for anyone but.....................Western Digital makes an external hard drive with software that continuously backs up your entire computer without you having to do anything other than the initial setup. The 1 Tb one is under a hundred dollars. Other than checking every now and then to make sure it's working nothing will ever be lost. I think the 500meg one is at or under fifty. Same software.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby artimrj » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:19 am

While I work on routes I copy the route folder to another place with the date in the folder name before EVERY session of editting I start. If I go marathon, I copy it over 2 or 3 times in 10-12 hours of editting. I have 30 days worth of back ups in chronological order all the time. After all that I never had to use a back up either. Murphy's Law is waiting for me...
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby Chacal » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:41 am

This thread has the DOS batch file I use for backing up a project easily once a night or more often.
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Re: Orin Subdivision-Powder River Basin

Unread postby Chacal » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:29 pm

SD40Australia wrote:So saving it in the editor doesn't cut it?


No, because it doesn't do versioning. So every time you save, you overwrite the older version.
My script adds a timestamp to the folder name so you save a new version every time you run it.
No as good as a proper versioning system (à la git / github), but it does the job.

Personally if I wanted to share daily builds with a fixed group, instead of packaging the route and uploading the package nightly, I would set up a public github server, so people would come and get only the modified files.
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