Graphics problem

[DapperDan]

So I admit I'm dumb, but where did you find the Shader cache in the Nvidia Control Panel, cause I don't see it.

[artimrj]

There are some new shaders been included in TS2015 (\dev\shaders and \data\SilverLining\Shaders) dated 19/09/2014 and it could be one of those causing the issue or one of them interacting with previous unchanged TS2014 shaders. There is a Volumetriclighting.fx shader ands also TrainBasicObjectUnlit.fx shader are they anything to do with train/signal lighting?

Shader cache on or off should not affect the "black" squares issue in fact "ON" might well improve it as many of the shaders are cached and do not have to be rendered or re-rendered. On my 3 rigs, GTX 670, 750TI, 760TI - I do not see the black squares artefact but I see less cpu load with Shader Cache - ON.

Bob - did you say that this artefact disappears as you pan around or am I dreaming? If it does it seems to point to a rendering issue which might well be computer specific. If it doesn't - another theory just bit the dust.

pH

To see it in the case of the signals you view has to be below the signal so the background of it is the sky. When I raise my elevation it goes away.

[artimrj]

So I admit I'm dumb, but where did you find the Shader cache in the Nvidia Control Panel, cause I don't see it.

Your not dumb, but are you sure you have the latest version of the drivers? Here it is on mine, the last entry in the window.

[peterhayes]

Bob
So it is positional in that changing the position - it goes away - BUT - does it come back when you immediately pan back to the view position that originally showed the black square? If it doesn't show the black square again - it begins to sound like a rendering issue as it was in FSX. If it does show then it could be anything and most of the comments here could be applied.
What are your settings in NVCP are you using (as recommended by DTG/RSC) "Let the 3D Applications decide"?
In TS 2015 what are your graphics settings including the advanced ones?
pH

[plethaus]

Bob
So it is positional in that changing the position - it goes away - BUT - does it come back when you immediately pan back to the view position that originally showed the black square? If it doesn't show the black square again - it begins to sound like a rendering issue as it was in FSX. If it does show then it could be anything and most of the comments here could be applied.
What are your settings in NVCP are you using (as recommended by DTG/RSC) "Let the 3D Applications decide"?
In TS 2015 what are your graphics settings including the advanced ones?
pH

It's an issue with the assets in TS2015, not his computer.....

[buzz456]

Peter,
Yes it goes away and comes back when the line of sight is to the sky. As soon as the background is not the sky it is gone. It's delineated by the background.

[peterhayes]

Plethaus

It's an issue with the assets in TS2015, not his computer.....

So why aren't we all seeing this artefact - if it is an "Asset" fault and what "Asset" is it?

Buzz
Thanks for the info!! I wasn't sure if it came and went so to speak.
pH

[artimrj]

I have it narrowed down to the light texture. The light is centered on the texture which is a square. When the light changes the black box shifts position to center the light glow.

It happens with the Lakeside route signals and using 3D Cloudy for sure. Stevens Pass has also been reported. Then there are some engines who's light also does this.

In all of this I discovered something else about NVidia. Before, and I have not changed in several years, if you had an NVidia you had to have AA set as application controlled or you got a black sky and white ground. Tonight I changed that to 32Q in the control panel and I got about 7 fps more. No black sky or white ground that used to happen. Not sure what that will do to other games but it worked great for TS.

[plethaus]

Plethaus

It's an issue with the assets in TS2015, not his computer.....

So why aren't we all seeing this artefact - if it is an "Asset" fault and what "Asset" is it?

Buzz
Thanks for the info!! I wasn't sure if it came and went so to speak.
pH

Do you have the Stevens Pass route?

[peterhayes]

Yes, I have tried every USA route and I am not seeing this artefact. (Dynamic stuff ON and OFF)
Surely if it was an Asset it would be fixed by a cache verification (if we all do NOT see this effect)?



Steven's Pass
pH

[buzz456]

You don't look like you have the 3D sky behind the signals.

[buzz456]

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[peterhayes]

Sorry I posted the wrong Picture on Photobucket - will upload the correct pics now.

Dynamic Stuff ON







pH

[GSkid]

Yes, I have tried every USA route and I am not seeing this artefact. (Dynamic stuff ON and OFF)
Surely if it was an Asset it would be fixed by a cache verification (if we all do NOT see this effect)?

Steven's Pass
pH

Clone a Stevens Pass scenario. Edit the clone and change it's weather to ANYTHING with "3D" in the weather's name. Save it and let it run. Go up to a signal and look at it as if you were a mouse on the ground gazing up at the towering signal (like Buzz's first pic) where there is nothing but the sky surrounding the signal head. You should see it. I can't see how you wouldn't see it when everyone else sees it now that they know where and how to see it.

EDIT: Your pics have objects behind the signal head. You must have it with nothing but sky behind the signal head...period.

[peterhayes]

Gskid
You'll have to tell me how to get a loco light with nothing but sky behind it - as square loco lights have been reported!

So let me get this straight you want RSC/DTG to issue a patch that stops squares behind signals, when a simmer has cloned and edited a scenario, and has taken a picture looking from the ground up (mouse like) with only the sky and nothing else behind the signal . Hmm! I don't think it will be very high on their priority list.

You state EVERYONE sees it well - really - I don't see it and neither do several simmers I have contacted - bearing in mind we only carried out the test on Stevens Pass, and we didn't clone anything not even "Dolly".

I pass on this one and will make no further comment.
pH