Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:19 am

Hmmm, just read this, from Karma99, on the Steam forum;

...As I'm currently rewriting the entire wheelslip physics and taking it under the control of script...


I wonder if he saw my video? !*salute*!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby hertsbob » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:58 am

Stranger things have happened.

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby evafan002 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:41 pm

A thought occurs to me. if you have made it so that the loco locks the wheels if braking too hard will the tender wheels also lockup?
As I believe that 844 has brakes on the tender wheels?
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:16 pm

evafan002 wrote:A thought occurs to me. if you have made it so that the loco locks the wheels if braking too hard will the tender wheels also lockup?
As I believe that 844 has brakes on the tender wheels?


That's an interesting thought. The engine is going to communicate with the tender anyway to tell it when to apply its own brakes, so yes, I could also script the tender to lock its wheels. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby evafan002 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:04 am

mrennie wrote:
evafan002 wrote:A thought occurs to me. if you have made it so that the loco locks the wheels if braking too hard will the tender wheels also lockup?
As I believe that 844 has brakes on the tender wheels?


That's an interesting thought. The engine is going to communicate with the tender anyway to tell it when to apply its own brakes, so yes, I could also script the tender to lock its wheels. Thanks for the suggestion!

You are welcome mate it was just a random passing thought that I latched onto and posted here to see what came of it
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:54 am

hertsbob wrote:Stranger things have happened.

*!!wink!!*


Thought so.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby Ericmopar » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:34 pm

Quit giving him ideas...
We'll never get this thing and his mind will explode...
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby bpetit » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:12 am

Ericmopar wrote:Quit giving him ideas...
We'll never get this thing and his mind will explode...


Guilty of that also *!!wink!!* *!rolleyes!*
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Sun Dec 29, 2013 6:39 am

Here's the detail on the steam turret. This one still has the Wilson sludge separator in the turret. In more recent photos, the hole's been covered over - UP changed the piping so that the steam would come out further down and avoid dirtying the boiler jacket, but I've modelled it the way it was before.

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby bnsfsubdivision » Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:27 am

mrennie wrote:Here's the detail on the steam turret. This one still has the Wilson sludge separator in the turret. In more recent photos, the hole's been covered over - UP changed the piping so that the steam would come out further down and avoid dirtying the boiler jacket, but I've modelled it the way it was before.

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Excellent work Mike! Keep it up! !*salute*!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby evafan002 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:12 am

bnsfsubdivision wrote:
mrennie wrote:Here's the detail on the steam turret. This one still has the Wilson sludge separator in the turret. In more recent photos, the hole's been covered over - UP changed the piping so that the steam would come out further down and avoid dirtying the boiler jacket, but I've modelled it the way it was before.

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Excellent work Mike! Keep it up! !*salute*!

Why is it called a steam turret anyway? every time I see that name I keep looking for the .50 cals and I don't know why they call it a turret as in my mind a turret is something that holds something else and rotates
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:00 am

evafan002 wrote:Why is it called a steam turret anyway? every time I see that name I keep looking for the .50 cals and I don't know why they call it a turret as in my mind a turret is something that holds something else and rotates


"Turret" pre-dates the age of tanks and battleships - remember that castles have turrets. The steam turret does hold something - steam. It's like the steam dome, except that the steam dome collects steam to go through the dry pipe to the steam chest and on through the valves to the cylinders, whereas the steam turret is near the backhead (the cab end of the boiler, where the firebox is) and distributes steam to the various appliances and steam-driven controls, through steam throttles. In the old steam locos, it looked a bit like the turret on a castle.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby OldProf » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:26 am

Every RR museum in the world is going to want one of these!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby evafan002 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:36 pm

mrennie wrote:
evafan002 wrote:Why is it called a steam turret anyway? every time I see that name I keep looking for the .50 cals and I don't know why they call it a turret as in my mind a turret is something that holds something else and rotates


"Turret" pre-dates the age of tanks and battleships - remember that castles have turrets. The steam turret does hold something - steam. It's like the steam dome, except that the steam dome collects steam to go through the dry pipe to the steam chest and on through the valves to the cylinders, whereas the steam turret is near the backhead (the cab end of the boiler, where the firebox is) and distributes steam to the various appliances and steam-driven controls, through steam throttles. In the old steam locos, it looked a bit like the turret on a castle.

I see thank you for the info and you are right it does predate tanks and so on but I guess its just a habit of mine now days to forget that little fact oh well
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby ozinoz » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:43 pm

She is certainly coming along. Then the "Fun" of the cab starts

Anybody want some heat? I can try and send you some. I will swap for snow *!lol!* 45C here yesterday, same today and possibly 47-48 tomorrow (thats about 120 in the old money)

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