TS2021 announced

Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Schnauzahpowahz » Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:18 pm

It seems... smoother ? (Statement and question)

Game loads quick, menu tabs quick, editor.
Seem to be less stutter? Cant just be psychological, right. Right?

Feels diff for sure.


Oh and they swapped the workshop/standard tabs !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Cardinal51 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:29 pm

Railfan722 wrote:If you're looking to get this for the WCML, don't. Very clearly rushed to completion and full of obvious bugs, ......


DTG clearly is aware and agrees something is wrong.

See their own video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMlHKd9ZtqA
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Terry » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:44 pm

No issues with the upgrade. The sim seems faster to load and the interface looks sharper. I haven't tried out the workshop because I'm working on some scenarios of my own.

No OOM errors despite being in and out of the scenario editor multiple times.

Does anyone know whether DTG / Steam has created a way to launch the 64-bit version from a desktop shortcut?
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby BNSFdude » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:42 pm

Terry wrote:Does anyone know whether DTG / Steam has created a way to launch the 64-bit version from a desktop shortcut?

Create a shortcut from the 64 bit .exe and throw it on the desktop.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby trev123 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:46 pm

I just do a one-click start from my TS2021 icon on my taskbar.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Terry » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:54 am

What I meant is something like this. which launches the 32-bit version and doesn't require that I be signed on to Steam first:

steam://rungameid/24010

To launch the 64-bit version I can do this, but if I haven't already signed on to Steam I am prompted to do that first:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\RailWorks\RailWorks64.exe"
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:02 pm

Terry wrote:What I meant is something like this. which launches the 32-bit version and doesn't require that I be signed on to Steam first:

steam://rungameid/24010

To launch the 64-bit version I can do this, but if I haven't already signed on to Steam I am prompted to do that first:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\RailWorks\RailWorks64.exe"


Notice in the Railworks folder there is a 370KB railworks.exe which is the 32 bits executable that is called by steam://rungameid/24010, just rename the original railworks.exe into railworks32.exe and 372 KB railworks64.exe into railworks.exe and see what happens.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Boss1 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:40 pm

Schnauzahpowahz wrote:It seems... smoother ? (Statement and question)

Game loads quick, menu tabs quick, editor.
Seem to be less stutter? Cant just be psychological, right. Right?

Feels diff for sure.


Oh and they swapped the workshop/standard tabs !*roll-laugh*!


Who knows what or if DTG did anything, but I definitely have way higher FPS! !*roll-laugh*!
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby PNWR1854 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:40 pm

Really, really just wish that DTG could put some actual effort in, or give the development of the game over to people who actually care and will try to make quality content. This update is nothing more than a background image swap and the changed workshop button. It's disappointing to me, because the game still has an active fanbase, but all the high-quality content is made by the community and third parties. Almost all of DTG's locomotives are old locomotives which are several years old, and have simply been reworked over and over again. These locomotives often have extremely poor or inaccurate sounds, by today's standard. They are reusing rolling stock in new routes that's from the Rail Simulator release from 2007..... Good, high quality content is certainly possible, We've seen that with searchlight's excellent SD40-2 and AC4400CW locomotives, and the many high quality community repaints, sounds, enhancements and routes. DTG is quite simply not putting effort into their content anymore, their content has not changed or improved for a very long time. It's genuinely disappointing to me, because I love this game. DTG could revive the game and attract more players if they fixed the many known bugs, and made higher quality content, or introduced some revolutionary new feature, like first person play with increased interactivity, or multiplayer, But they won't.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Terry » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:35 am

PNWR1854 wrote:Really, really just wish that DTG could put some actual effort in, or give the development of the game over to people who actually care and will try to make quality content. This update is nothing more than a background image swap and the changed workshop button. It's disappointing to me, because the game still has an active fanbase, but all the high-quality content is made by the community and third parties. Almost all of DTG's locomotives are old locomotives which are several years old, and have simply been reworked over and over again. These locomotives often have extremely poor or inaccurate sounds, by today's standard. They are reusing rolling stock in new routes that's from the Rail Simulator release from 2007..... Good, high quality content is certainly possible, We've seen that with searchlight's excellent SD40-2 and AC4400CW locomotives, and the many high quality community repaints, sounds, enhancements and routes. DTG is quite simply not putting effort into their content anymore, their content has not changed or improved for a very long time. It's genuinely disappointing to me, because I love this game. DTG could revive the game and attract more players if they fixed the many known bugs, and made higher quality content, or introduced some revolutionary new feature, like first person play with increased interactivity, or multiplayer, But they won't.


I can't speak for others, but I have seen some nice things from DTG in recent years. The 2021 update may be more "behind the scenes" than anything else, but it sends the message that DTG is still supporting the product. The new CSX Hanover route is supposed to be really good from what I've read. I got the Alaska Railroad, Soldier Summit, and some nice locos. Nothing is perfect, but for the graphics and realism, TS is pretty doggone good. If it weren't, we would all be doing something else right now, and there would not be the endless variety and selection of add-ons out there. I started out using Microsoft Train Simulator years ago, but once I got into what was then just called Railworks, I didn't go back. I know that quite a few of the people I got to know from my MSTS days made the move, too.

I don't have a problem with people expressing their disappointment or even frustration here, but at the same time, this isn't the place to get your complaints addressed, is it? There are other train simulators out there - maybe they can do what this one doesn't? There are DTG communities that are probably more suited for suggestions and comments directed toward the development team.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby buzz456 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:15 am

Thank you Terry. !!*ok*!!
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby Boss1 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:20 am

Terry wrote:
PNWR1854 wrote:Really, really just wish that DTG could put some actual effort in, or give the development of the game over to people who actually care and will try to make quality content. This update is nothing more than a background image swap and the changed workshop button. It's disappointing to me, because the game still has an active fanbase, but all the high-quality content is made by the community and third parties. Almost all of DTG's locomotives are old locomotives which are several years old, and have simply been reworked over and over again. These locomotives often have extremely poor or inaccurate sounds, by today's standard. They are reusing rolling stock in new routes that's from the Rail Simulator release from 2007..... Good, high quality content is certainly possible, We've seen that with searchlight's excellent SD40-2 and AC4400CW locomotives, and the many high quality community repaints, sounds, enhancements and routes. DTG is quite simply not putting effort into their content anymore, their content has not changed or improved for a very long time. It's genuinely disappointing to me, because I love this game. DTG could revive the game and attract more players if they fixed the many known bugs, and made higher quality content, or introduced some revolutionary new feature, like first person play with increased interactivity, or multiplayer, But they won't.


I can't speak for others, but I have seen some nice things from DTG in recent years. The 2021 update may be more "behind the scenes" than anything else, but it sends the message that DTG is still supporting the product. The new CSX Hanover route is supposed to be really good from what I've read. I got the Alaska Railroad, Soldier Summit, and some nice locos. Nothing is perfect, but for the graphics and realism, TS is pretty doggone good. If it weren't, we would all be doing something else right now, and there would not be the endless variety and selection of add-ons out there. I started out using Microsoft Train Simulator years ago, but once I got into what was then just called Railworks, I didn't go back. I know that quite a few of the people I got to know from my MSTS days made the move, too.

I don't have a problem with people expressing their disappointment or even frustration here, but at the same time, this isn't the place to get your complaints addressed, is it? There are other train simulators out there - maybe they can do what this one doesn't? There are DTG communities that are probably more suited for suggestions and comments directed toward the development team.



I also come from the MSTS days and do agree that TS2021 is overall the best sim out there for recreating train operations! However, I also wish that DTG would put more effort in their new locos and routes. Thank goodness for all of the freeware and payware 3rd party developers! !!*ok*!!
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:24 pm

Not just freeware developers, thanks to Searchlight Simulations, and other payware developers for some of the more advanced scripted locomotives and other products. This raises the bar for realistic operations. Supporting these developers also helps this simulator by adding an excitement level brought on by these innovative products. Thank you sir, I'll have another. *!!thnx!!*
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby trev123 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:52 am

There are lots of 3rd party developers of UK locos etc, Bossman Games, Vulcan Productions, Mesh tools and Digital Traction to name a few oh yes and Just Trains. Of cause, these all make assets/routes for the UK scene.
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Re: TS2021 announced

Unread postby SAR704 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 9:22 pm

And I know that this is an old thread. But underneath the menu, it still says ©2019. Are DTG that lazy that they can't even add a one to a number?
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