I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

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I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:31 am

Hi everyone I would like to inform you of this game changing find that I found which will enhance your railroading experience using train simulator.

First of all you run a route in quick drive, then go to the build editor and clone the quick drive route which will read copy of quick drive scenario. Then open the copy of quick drive scenario in the scenario editor in rw tools and pick what service that you want to drive in the opposite direction and save the quick drive scenario as a Free roam scenario and the result is you now have a random quick drive. You can do this every time that you run a quick drive route by cloning and creating a Freeroam scenario in rw tools. Also when you come off route you can pick up freight wagons and shunt and drive anywhere and jump to different services and if you add a driver on any static locomotive you can jump on them when the player train passes. If you edit the player train in the timetable editor in train simulator by just having the final destination icon which is the blue square with orange arrow but without a destination this will allow the player train to run in an open world, as the scenario will not end and will also allow all points/switches to be set manually for any path.
Using my method will enable train simulator to run as an open world simulator with endless possibilities.
This idea will only work by using RW Tools to convert a cloned quick drive scenario to a Free Roam scenario.


I really hope that it helps all of you to enhance your experience of this excellent sim.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby Chacal » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:57 pm

This sounds interesting and I almost understand what you are trying to say.
Please answer a few questions so that we can follow you:

theskipper98 wrote: First of all you run a route in quick drive, then go to the build editor and clone the quick drive route

I suppose you mean "clone the quick drive scenario" ?

theskipper98 wrote:pick what service that you want to drive in the opposite direction

The opposite direction ? Opposite to what? Please clarify.

theskipper98 wrote:the result is you now have a random quick drive

What is a random quick drive? Or do you mean, "the result is you now have a random Freeroam scenario"?

theskipper98 wrote:Also when you come off route you can pick up freight wagons

What does "come off route" mean?

Thanks in advance, this really sounds good.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby ex-railwayman » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:35 pm

I'm unsure how to even clone a Quick Drive scenario, as when I go into my RW Tools, it advises me that there are no train consists in a QD and won't let me edit anything.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:19 am

Hi everyone i have compiled a list of screen shots to show you step by step how to have ai trains in a free roam scenario. I would like to upload these jpeg files but all i see is an options box with no upload box next to it.
Please can someone help me so that i can upload the screen shots so that i can show you how my idea works,

Thank you
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby artimrj » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:48 am

You have to have made 2 posts to post pictures. I beleive I just approved your second post. That is part of the security for the site. After 2 posts it assumes you are human. You should be good to go for posts and pms.

I have also stickied this.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:33 am

Thank you Bob
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:36 am

Hi everyone here is my guide showing you step by step how to run AI trains in a Free Roam scenario. I can only upload five jpegs at a time, so I will add the other screenshots to my next post.

First of all you run a route in quick drive, then go to the build editor and clone the quick drive scenario which will read copy of quick drive scenario. Then open the copy of quick drive scenario in the scenario editor in rw tools and save the quick drive scenario as a Free roam scenario and the result is you now have a random quick drive with AI trains. You can do this every time that you run a quick drive route by cloning and creating a Freeroam scenario in rw tools. Also when you come of route you can pick up freight wagons and shunt and drive anywhere and jump to different services.

Also you must have RW tools which is now freeware to change the Quick drive Scenario to Free roam for this to work.
Please read screen shots from the bottom up.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:41 am

First of all you run a route in quick drive, then go to the build editor and clone the quick drive scenario which will read copy of quick drive scenario. Then open the copy of quick drive scenario in the scenario editor in rw tools and save the quick drive scenario as a Free roam scenario and the result is you now have a random quick drive with AI trains. You can do this every time that you run a quick drive route by cloning and creating a Freeroam scenario in rw tools. Also when you come of route you can pick up freight wagons and shunt and drive anywhere and jump to different services.

Also you must have RW tools which is now freeware to change the Quick drive Scenario to Free roam for this to work.
Please read screen shots from the bottom up.

And finally I would like to thank Mike Simpson for giving the train sim community a wonderful tool, as RW Tools really is magic and enhances an excellent train simulator.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:43 am

As you can see all the points/switches are all controlled manually in the map screen. I do have more tips but I will give these away once I know that the train simulator community gets this working, as there has been some confusion within the community in how my idea works.

I really hope that my screen shots help as my idea turns trains simulator into an open world sim. This works on all Quick Drive routes and the possibilities are endless. Hopefully many peoples wishes will come true as this has been mentioned on the forums for some time with the conclusion that it cannot be done!

Also you must have RW tools which is now freeware to change the Quick drive Scenario to Free roam for this to work.

And finally I would like to thank Mike Simpson for giving the train sim community a wonderful tool, as RW Tools really is magic and enhances an excellent train simulator.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:04 am

Chacal wrote:This sounds interesting and I almost understand what you are trying to say.
Please answer a few questions so that we can follow you:

theskipper98 wrote: First of all you run a route in quick drive, then go to the build editor and clone the quick drive route

I suppose you mean "clone the quick drive scenario" ?

theskipper98 wrote:pick what service that you want to drive in the opposite direction

The opposite direction ? Opposite to what? Please clarify.

theskipper98 wrote:the result is you now have a random quick drive

What is a random quick drive? Or do you mean, "the result is you now have a random Freeroam scenario"?

theskipper98 wrote:Also when you come off route you can pick up freight wagons

What does "come off route" mean?

Thanks in advance, this really sounds good.

Hi Chacal, i have posted some screen shots on how my idea works. Come off route means free path anywhere with all points/switches manually set from the map view. A random quick drive means that every time that you create a quick drive scenario in train simulator the AI and consists for that route are randomised and by cloning a quick drive scenario you can create a free roam scenario with running AI trains by creating a free roam scenario in RW tools.
I will talk about driving the AI trains in the opposite direction to the player train and having total control of points/switches when there is less confusion within the community members, as i want to help the train sim community to get this running and not confuse people even more, because once you get this up and running the possibilities are endless turning this excellent train sim into an open world sim.
I came across this idea for some time and wanted to share my idea with the train sim community so that it will enhance their experience as the scenario never ends allowing the user freedom to do what they want in the sim.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby Chacal » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:44 am

OK thanks.
I will try to repost your instructions with a few corrections to make them easier to follow.
I will also place the screenshots properly in the text.
When we have a final version, I will add this to our learning center on the RWA web site so that it is easier to find.
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:59 am

Chacal wrote:OK thanks.
I will try to repost your instructions with a few corrections to make them easier to follow.
I will also place the screenshots properly in the text.
When we have a final version, I will add this to our learning center on the RWA web site so that it is easier to find.


Thanks Chacal for your help as i am not really experienced in uploading images to a forum and i was not sure how to get them in the correct order for easier reading.
Any help would be a positive step for the community in understanding how this idea works. *!lol!*
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby OldProf » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:31 am

I find your use of the terms "route" and scenario" confusing. As far as I know, there is no such thing as running a route in Free Roam; rather, "Free Roam" is a type of scenario (other types include Standard, Career, etc.) that can be run on a particular route. Perhaps you're so excited about your discovery that you've lost track of this difference?
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby theskipper98 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:05 am

OldProf wrote:I find your use of the terms "route" and scenario" confusing. As far as I know, there is no such thing as running a route in Free Roam; rather, "Free Roam" is a type of scenario (other types include Standard, Career, etc.) that can be run on a particular route. Perhaps you're so excited about your discovery that you've lost track of this difference?


Hi Oldprof

The route is any route that you choose for your quick drive from the main train simulator menu. Load the route and exit the quick drive scenario and go to the build menu where you then clone the quick drive scenario.
Then edit the clone/copy of the quick drive scenario in the scenario editor of Railworks Tools and change the scenario to a free roam scenario and then start train simulator and go to the free roam tab and look in the route that
you made as a quick drive and select your copy of quick drive scenario and play. You can rename copy of quick drive scenario to anything you want so that the scenario will be saved.

Please take a closer look at my step by step screen shots in which i created a free roam scenario with running AI trains for Soldier Summit and try and replicate what is shown. Have a look at my map image which shows switches unlocked and manually controlled by the player acting as a signalman. Also i have posted my idea at trainsim.com if that helps.

I hope that this helps you and others *!lol!*
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Re: I have found a way to have AI trains in a Free Roam Scenario

Unread postby Chacal » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:04 pm

OldProf wrote:I find your use of the terms "route" and scenario" confusing. As far as I know, there is no such thing as running a route in Free Roam; rather, "Free Roam" is a type of scenario (other types include Standard, Career, etc.) that can be run on a particular route. Perhaps you're so excited about your discovery that you've lost track of this difference?


He means run a Free Roam scenario on the route, and he also means freely roaming the route, as there is no ending condition to the scenario.

Different people have different command of the English language. This is why I want to rewrite and improve theskipper98's instructions. I figure if I have problems understanding them, I'm probably not alone. With the text and material he provided this will be easy.

His technique is actually easier to do than to explain.
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