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ReDem help

Unread postby ChuckF » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:41 am

Hi All! I posted this request on train-sim but did not get a reply. I would like to buddy up with someone to get ReDem working on my computer. I'm using Vista. I would like to do this by e-mail so as not to tie up a lot of forum space. Please contact me at if you would like to do this. Cheers; Chuck F. !*salute*! e-mail address deleted.
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby Hawk » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:14 pm

I'm not going to be any help for you but I did want to point out that it's not too safe posting an email address in a forum. Email harvesters can too easily find it and possibly start spamming you. *!!wink!!*
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:28 pm

Chuck
I have used ReDem with great success but with Windows XP SP3 and would assume the same would apply with Vista as ReDem is built for XP & Vista.
Send me a pm for a query and we can go from there.

Gordon.

Example of a beta test I have just recently done for someone:

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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:45 am

In the screenshot you posted, I see the recommended route laid on as a blue line. How do you get that result? I have a good GSPM arker file, the route marker labels all show in the pullout, and do reference the correct locations on the 1/9 arc second ReDem terrain. However, when I select Route Markers in the linear object box, nothing happens.

I'm loving the RailWorks program, but the learning curve for the world editor is seriously steep!
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:09 pm

To achieve the color you want ( defaults at Black ), select the R G B sliders in the RW Blueprint, or if you used RW_Tools...the same applies. Below are shots of the two...RW Blueprint being the first shot. If you cannot see your markers after restarting RW's and checking the radio button for Route Markers in the WE then I would assume something went wrong in the conversion to .dcsv maybe... *!question!*
You must be in one of the good areas to download 1/9 arc second DEM...they are rare and not a lot available as of yet.

Query Here?: Where have you placed your Series Marker .dcsv & .bin files...they should be in your own Assets folder in a sub folder called RouteMarkers and not in your Route folders.

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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:27 pm

Hmmmm... all seems right, files are in \assets\micheal\addon03\routemarkers, and Micheal - addon03 are selected in the tools list. I see you referencing a file called flag.xml, which doesn't exist on my system.

files I have:

addon03,dscv
addon03.dscv.tgt
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.bin
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.bin.tgt
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.xml
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.xml.tgt
Route blueprint000.bin
Route blueprint000.bin.tgt
Route blueprint000.xml
Route blueprint000.xml.tgt

I'm currently working on a small short line out of Hood River, OR because it was in the 1/9 area... detail is amazing. Making water flow downhill in a river course has it's own challenges.
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:46 pm

Apologies... *!embar*! This was a quick demo showing the color only. I used my position named marker file as the demo file and not my series marker file. The flag.xml is the blueprint for the standard RS flag that is used for named markers.
Query again, is blueprint001 your series marker set. For either set ( series or named ) when first created you should get 6 files created:

.bin
.bin.tgt
.dcsv
.dcsv.tgt
.xml
.xml.tgt

The red ones you can delete as they are only a data record of you creating the marker files. You should have three files for each set and if this is your series marker set then you are missing your .dcsv file which is the crucial part ( which I suspect is addon03 ). All files should have the same name. Here is an example of the ReDem picture above in the third post.

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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby Trainguy76 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:15 am

Don't forget you have to load, exit, reload for series markers the first time.
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:14 am

If you have done what Alex mentioned above and what I noted in post 5 about restarting RW's after you loaded the marker files, selecting route markers radio button on the bottom left flyout and still have issues I suggest you remake the files.
It only takes a few minutes as you already know and this will narrow it down to the .csv file if it still doesn't work. You should still have your .csv file in your Source Folder.
First up, delete these files in your Assets\Micheal\Addon03\ RouteMarkers folder.

addon03,dscv
addon03.dscv.tgt
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.bin
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.bin.tgt
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.xml
GPSM Arker set blueprint001.xml.tgt


Then delete the old ******.xml blueprint file for your markers in your Source\Micheal\Addon03\RouteMarkers folder. You should have the .csv file still there.
I renamed this .csv file to Hood River for an example.

Okay, fire up RailWorks, clear cache and then launch the Blueprint Editor. Open up your Source folder to the RouteMarkers...you will see the .csv file I renamed to Hood River. Right click on RouteMarkers, choose the Blueprint and okay.

hr_a.jpg


Rename the Blueprint to Hood River.

hr_b.jpg


Blueprint is Hood River as done in prior picture, Type Hood River in English slot, move sliders as shown....the green should be 1, didn't move it far enough, type in RouteMarkers\Hood River.csv under series marker file tab and when happy click the export button. You should see a successful build at the very bottom when done.

hr_c.jpg


Go to your Assets\Micheal\Addon03\ RouteMarkers folder and you should have these files. You can delete the three .tgt files.

hr_d.jpg


Fire up RailWorks again, check the Route Markes radio button in the bottom left flyout in the WE save and exit. Start RailWorks up again, check the radio button is still active and check your cyan series markers.

If they are still not there here's a couple of things to check:

1. The long values ( -*** ) are in the left column of your csv file
2. The start long & lat are the same value in your Route Blueprint as what you used in ReDem.

Let us know how you got on.
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:53 am

It works! !*cheers*! **!!bow!!**

Apparently, all that was missing was the matching ReDem index values. Once I added the Lon and Lat that I used for the Redem start to the top of the .csv file, it drew the route lines. One thing I know for sure, I'll need a LOT more indices. !**duh*!!

Thanks for the help! MM
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:21 am

Good news to hear you got it working... *!!wink!!*
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:22 pm

It's absolutely amazing what you find when you aren't looking...

http://mdroaming.home.comcast.net/ninth_second.png (Screenshot is too large to post.)

This is a 1/9th second ReDem from the Hood River area near Parkdale, OR. It's a lava flow from Mt. Hood, OR. The detail is amazing! If you want to look at the real thing Google map 45.53N 121.624W and look at the satellite view.

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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:49 am

Wow...that's amazing detail. You are lucky to have the 1/9 arc second available for the Hood area.
Here's that Google view for folks...

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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby MadMike1024 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:04 pm

The detail for the river canyon run is as good. The track is laid, abd I plan to post some WIP photos soon, showing the Hood River canyon and my solution to the rapids.

The line is a 27 mile short line that originally was longer, built to service lumber mills in the area, and haul logs out to paper mills. Later, it later abandoned about 30 miles of track, but still hauled lumber from two mills that was left. Fruit orchards are it's main staple, with a tourist dinner train for additional revenue. I'm torn though. Would you rather see the line exactly as it is, or should I add some revenue generators and extend the line to it's historical length to enhance the driving experience?
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Re: ReDem help

Unread postby qrfan3 » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:34 pm

My vote if possible would be for the historical era. I believe we have too much of the modern by not enough of the old.
Excuse my ignorance..but what road name would the hood run under?
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