Signalling Question

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Signalling Question

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:21 pm

What would be the best signal to use in this situation? I am using the NORAC signals I downloaded from I believe Pikes website. I tried a few different combos but can't get it to work like I think it should. Perhaps my thinking is off.
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby PapaXpress » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:29 pm

The NORAC signals will be in RCAP v2 (no eta yet).
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby robbit » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:34 pm

What a coincidence. I am having the same issue and I just cannot get it. I had to take the line with the cross through out and make the diversion a single line to get the signals to work.
Like This:
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But I will be watching this thread to see if there is a better way.
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby emdsd90mac » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:50 pm

I'm not sure if I should use a 2H2T or a 2H3T or what. I have tried both but can't get it to work the way my brain is telling me it should work. If the tracks in my above posted picture are numbered left to right 1 & 2 then as track 2 diverges across track 1 then the signal on track 1 should change to red but it won't. I have placing the arrows in different locations but still called no joy. !*hp*!
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby robbit » Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:43 pm

emdsd90mac wrote:I'm not sure if I should use a 2H2T or a 2H3T or what. I have tried both but can't get it to work the way my brain is telling me it should work. If the tracks in my above posted picture are numbered left to right 1 & 2 then as track 2 diverges across track 1 then the signal on track 1 should change to red but it won't. I have placing the arrows in different locations but still called no joy. !*hp*!

Yes I understood your issue that is the same issue I am having and cannot get it to work the way it should same as you
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby Toripony » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:35 am

Getting signals to work across multiple junctions is rare. The signal sees that X-crossover as a junction and expects its diverging link to be just beyond it. I have gotten such things to work but can't tell you how (signaling Ronceverte took uncountable attempts to figure out). I usually end up having to modify my track design to suit the TS signaling system. As complicated as they are, you can't "wire" them like in real-life, so some situations just cannot be duplicated in TS.

Show your SS's in Track Edit mode so we can see your track welds. You need a weld between any and all opposing links and a weld immediately after your crossover/frog with the diverging link just beyond that weld. Open up a EU route and closely study similar crossovers in their track. Use your spacebar to change track display mode to "Links" (it's like the 8th or 9th screen I think) so you can see all the link placements at once.
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby FoggyMorning » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:13 am

A lot depends on placement of the signal track links. Basically, the link on the straight ahead branch of track 1 needs to be on the far side of the crossover from the signal itself, and the same for the left hand branch of track 2
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Re: Signalling Question

Unread postby PolyesterMafia » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Well first off, i'd get those signals out from between the tracks and onto a gantry. There is a similar junction on my route that I signalled with a 2H 2T - both the main and diverging link beyond the x-over. Whether it works or not, in the Real it would be most likely this junction would be controlled by Dispatch rather than left entirely up to AB logic. In a Scenario you could take this into account with stop and wait instructions.
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