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Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:46 am
by Railfan49
Is there any interactive content that can be used on routes? For example, I want an industry that you can actually load and unload coal. Also an industry 1that will load/unload log wagons. I dabbled with Trainz for awhile and it has those types of interactive industries.

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:49 am
by buzz456
Yes there are assets out there to load and unload coal, gravel, containers and various lumber loads. I'm pretty sure I remember one for steel also.

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:54 am
by buzz456
Check out this route. It'll give you a good taste of what's available.
http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... Industrial

The IIR is very nicely done.

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:16 am
by Railfan49
Thanks. I'll take a look

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:12 am
by OldProf
Yes, there are quite a few loader/unloaders available, some going back to the first version of this simulator. I wish I could tell you where to download them. I tried searching for "loader" here at RWA and got a "load" of results that didn't come anywhere close to containing the word "loader". A search for the same term in both zones of the File Library produced only a "Splash Screen Loader", which does not strike me as apropos.

For me, as a scenario writer, loaders frequently prove frustrating because they have been placed improperly by the route builder, meaning that, for example, a container crane's pickup and deliver zones are out of line with the track the loader supposedly serves or the loader is not paired with an appropriate track marker. Another route level frustration is that the load is not visible (this is particularly problematic with loads such as coal, grain, wood chips, etc.). Then there is the problem that container loads are dependent upon the loader, not the car being loaded; this means that container cars that have been built after the loader and equipped with well-designed, specific containers will have old, generic containers dumped onto them by older loaders. The greatest frustration, however, comes from the fact that no interactive devices of any kind can be placed or adjusted at the scenario editing level. Thus a scenario writer cannot edit a loader placed at the route level to introduce a specific load. Believe it or not, this is a feature that sits very high on my scenario editing wish list.

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:14 am
by OldProf
buzz456 wrote:Check out this route. It'll give you a good taste of what's available.
http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... Industrial

The IIR is very nicely done.


I agree wholeheartedly. IIR is a sampler of interactive possibilities. But will it reveal the secret origins of its various loaders?

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:26 pm
by buzz456
Old Prof wrote:
buzz456 wrote:Check out this route. It'll give you a good taste of what's available.
http://railworksamerica.com/FileLibrary ... Industrial

The IIR is very nicely done.


I agree wholeheartedly. IIR is a sampler of interactive possibilities. But will it reveal the secret origins of its various loaders?


Tom I think most of them are creations of Michaels so you should be able to find them from his route?

Re: Interactive Industries

Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:13 pm
by OldProf
Railfan49 wrote:Is there any interactive content that can be used on routes? For example, I want an industry that you can actually load and unload coal. Also an industry 1that will load/unload log wagons. I dabbled with Trainz for awhile and it has those types of interactive industries.


Going back to this OP: coal loader-unloaders have been a part of this sim since its earliest version, but not all of them actually feature visible coal in chunks, particles, or dust.

There's a very good, rustic log loader on Toripony's C&O Allegheny route. It's by Dick Ham and can is available here at RWA. Go to the File Library and search for dick8299-Logging_Camp_Crane. Michael Stephan's IIR route includes a loader for bulk logs (perhaps also by Dick Ham?) that requires his bulk flatcar pack, which may or may not be available currently, with Michael in the process of upgrading all of his creations for TS2013.

Back to coal, for a moment. Pete Brauer created a working coal tipple for the C&O Allegheny that's also available here. Search for petebauer-Coal_Tipple.

Hope that this helps.