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Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:44 pm
by Brickrail782
I'm planning on creating an extension of the Kansas City - Topeka route when it comes out, but I'm having a hard time finding track charts for the area. Does anyone know of some places where I could look?

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:59 pm
by ElphabaWS
Brickrail782 wrote:I'm planning on creating an extension of the Kansas City - Topeka route when it comes out, but I'm having a hard time finding track charts for the area. Does anyone know of some places where I could look?

https://railfandepot.com/product/union-pacific-kansas-city-service-unit-track-chart-2002/

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:41 pm
by Brickrail782
I'll have to see if I can scrape up enough cash to buy those, they look like a great resource!

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:49 pm
by jalsina
Brickrail782 wrote:I'll have to see if I can scrape up enough cash to buy those, they look like a great resource!


I don´t think you need to expend that kind of money. *!!wink!!*
There are general UP maps and you can use Google Maps to see precisely where the tracks are laid, where are the signals and what kind of flora, industries and objects are in the area.
Three years ago I used Google Maps to place all signals in the FRC route extension from Keddie to Portola. I could localize a signal and copy the coordinates.

At that time I fell into a site with UP subdivisions info pdf´s. I think they were in http://www.acm.jhu.edu/ but the site seems to be dead. An example of one of the pdf (which I have) was: https://www.acm.jhu.edu//~sthurmovik/mo ... 082409.pdf but again, it is not opening.

However tonight I found a similar one for the Denver area in this site: https://denversrailroads.com/Denver/Tim ... -16-09.pdf
With some research you may get something around Kansas or Topeka.

Looking forward to your route extension. !*cheers*!

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 pm
by BNSFdude
The point of having the track charts is to have precise data on curvature and gradient, not so much placement and scenery.

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:06 pm
by BoostedFridge
BNSFdude wrote:The point of having the track charts is to have precise data on curvature and gradient, not so much placement and scenery.


^ Exactly right. Real railroad track charts give a wealth of useful data beyond just the grades. Before I had a chart for the Siskiyou I was often squinting at zoomed in blurry Google Earth views trying to figure out what type of girders a bridge had. After, there was no guesswork to it, as the exact length, type and construction would be listed on the track chart.


Brickrail782 wrote:I'm planning on creating an extension of the Kansas City - Topeka route when it comes out, but I'm having a hard time finding track charts for the area. Does anyone know of some places where I could look?


I strongly endorse getting your hands on a proper set of track charts if you are indeed serious about extending/making a prototypical route. In the meantime though, I've shared links below to employee made fog charts for the Kansas City and Salina service units from ~2008. They have the grade changes, track layout, distances, crossings, and signals, but are more condensed and harder to read than an actual track chart. Let me know when you've downloaded these so I can remove them from my google drive.

Salina Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1INc4bL81ScTBcYuvnT7JQKN9MG4zWaFU
Kansas City Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ITuqZmBRVyg4Qp0xzi3O1Nw4SCug3drz

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:04 pm
by Brickrail782
BoostedFridge wrote:
BNSFdude wrote:The point of having the track charts is to have precise data on curvature and gradient, not so much placement and scenery.


^ Exactly right. Real railroad track charts give a wealth of useful data beyond just the grades. Before I had a chart for the Siskiyou I was often squinting at zoomed in blurry Google Earth views trying to figure out what type of girders a bridge had. After, there was no guesswork to it, as the exact length, type and construction would be listed on the track chart.


Brickrail782 wrote:I'm planning on creating an extension of the Kansas City - Topeka route when it comes out, but I'm having a hard time finding track charts for the area. Does anyone know of some places where I could look?


I strongly endorse getting your hands on a proper set of track charts if you are indeed serious about extending/making a prototypical route. In the meantime though, I've shared links below to employee made fog charts for the Kansas City and Salina service units from ~2008. They have the grade changes, track layout, distances, crossings, and signals, but are more condensed and harder to read than an actual track chart. Let me know when you've downloaded these so I can remove them from my google drive.

Salina Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1INc4bL81ScTBcYuvnT7JQKN9MG4zWaFU
Kansas City Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ITuqZmBRVyg4Qp0xzi3O1Nw4SCug3drz


I'll have to take a look at those later today when I get a chance. Thanks!

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:49 pm
by AmericanSteam
You might check at Trains magazine. They have track mapage as well as rosters.

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:11 pm
by Brickrail782
BoostedFridge wrote:
BNSFdude wrote:The point of having the track charts is to have precise data on curvature and gradient, not so much placement and scenery.


^ Exactly right. Real railroad track charts give a wealth of useful data beyond just the grades. Before I had a chart for the Siskiyou I was often squinting at zoomed in blurry Google Earth views trying to figure out what type of girders a bridge had. After, there was no guesswork to it, as the exact length, type and construction would be listed on the track chart.


Brickrail782 wrote:I'm planning on creating an extension of the Kansas City - Topeka route when it comes out, but I'm having a hard time finding track charts for the area. Does anyone know of some places where I could look?


I strongly endorse getting your hands on a proper set of track charts if you are indeed serious about extending/making a prototypical route. In the meantime though, I've shared links below to employee made fog charts for the Kansas City and Salina service units from ~2008. They have the grade changes, track layout, distances, crossings, and signals, but are more condensed and harder to read than an actual track chart. Let me know when you've downloaded these so I can remove them from my google drive.

Salina Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1INc4bL81ScTBcYuvnT7JQKN9MG4zWaFU
Kansas City Service Unit - https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ITuqZmBRVyg4Qp0xzi3O1Nw4SCug3drz


Just took a look, those will suit my need perfectly! *!!thnx!!*

Re: Looking for modern UP track charts.

Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:37 am
by bswitzrw