Page 1 of 1

Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:20 am
by gtrtroger
So, I’m trying to edit a route that I’m trying to build and it involves roads and rails traversing mountain slopes. I’ve watched just about every UTube video tutorial and while some get close, none of them really address how to put roads and rails on the side on hills/mountains; I.e. cuts/fills similar to what is pictured below, after you have imported your DEM data. I also have markers in play and Google Earth overlay, so I know where the roads and rails need to go. I just need some hints, tips, tricks and advise of how to “sculpt” the terrain.

Thanks in advance......

Re: Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:06 pm
by buzz456
https://sites.google.com/a/railsimdev.c ... nipulation

See if this helps you out. After you get started playing around you will find this to be fairly straight forward. Make sure and make a copy that you can throw away if it gets really messed up and don't forget the undo arrow.

Re: Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:39 pm
by gtrtroger
Thanks Buzz. Training begins.......

Re: Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:25 am
by RailWanderer
Just don't expect really tight terrain changes like drainage ditches. The grid in TS is minimum 8 meters, that means anything less than 16 meters is not possible with one slope down as 8 meters and one slope back up as 8 meters. One of the tricks to making fine changes is to set the diameter of the terrain tool down to below 10 meters, 8 is better. This allows for a single point change where the grid lines cross. Remember, this is old technology, just like years ago we were lucky to have 640 resolution on our monitors, and TS is really based on the older technologies.

Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:05 pm
by RailWorkshop
How many tiles are loaded once in the game if I am standing at a point?
Basically how many kilometers of terrain?
I use 19*19 Import DEM data so I suppose to cut down to less value of 19*19 is fine?

Re: Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:11 pm
by BoostedFridge
RailWorkshop wrote:How many tiles are loaded once in the game if I am standing at a point?
Basically how many kilometers of terrain?
I use 19*19 Import DEM data so I suppose to cut down to less value of 19*19 is fine?


It loads the number of tiles that you have selected. Each tile is 1000m x 1000m. So with 19 x 19 you are loading the tile you are 'standing' in, and 9 in each direction.

DEM Tile boundaries.jpg

Re: Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:51 pm
by BoostedFridge
gtrtroger wrote:So, I’m trying to edit a route that I’m trying to build and it involves roads and rails traversing mountain slopes. I’ve watched just about every UTube video tutorial and while some get close, none of them really address how to put roads and rails on the side on hills/mountains; I.e. cuts/fills similar to what is pictured below, after you have imported your DEM data. I also have markers in play and Google Earth overlay, so I know where the roads and rails need to go. I just need some hints, tips, tricks and advise of how to “sculpt” the terrain.


As Railwanderer noted below, the size of each grid square/tile is the limiting factor here. I've figured out a few techniques that help shape terrain around tracks which I'll share below. All of my experience is from starting with DEM terrain, and then shaping it to fit the roadbed, or roads.

I primarily use the 'Increase Height' , 'Decrease Height', and 'Height' tools under the 'Painting Tools' palette. Your 'brush size' for each is crucial.

When trying to build up an embankment below your tracks, I use the 'increase height' tool, with a brush size of 30, with the 'circular brush'. I would start with a fairly low brush speed, between 1 and 1.5 . I place the cursor (and center of the tool) about one grid square beside the track, on the 'low' side of the tracks. Then make small 'click and drag' movements parallel to the tracks. This will raise up the shoulder of your embankment, the side of the embankment, and not bury your tracks in the process. Once you have the sides of your embankment looking decently smooth, change to the 'height' tool, and set your brush size to 10. This will allow you to grab and drag each grid squares corner for fine adjustment. This is super tedious, but allows for exact results.

To make cuttings, I use the 'decrease height' tool. For single track cuttings I use a brush size of 20, and a circular brush if the cutting has a corner, or the square brush if it is in a straight line. As above with the embankments, click and drag the cursor parallel to the tracks, but slightly offset. Use the 'height' tool, with a brush size of 10 for your fine adjustments after.

Even using the above techniques, you will find times when you just can't make the terrain do what you want it to. This is where you should use a mixture of terrain sculpting, with carefully chosen assets or lofts. There are many embankment assets packaged with existing routes, which can also be manipulated to double as the sides of cuttings. I suggest going through ALL of the scenery assets packaged with the route you are editing.

I hope that gives you some direction. As with everything in this game though, trial and error is often the best teacher.

Sculpting the Terrain

Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:08 pm
by RailWorkshop
BoostedFridge wrote:It loads the number of tiles that you have selected. Each tile is 1000m x 1000m. So with 19 x 19 you are loading the tile you are 'standing' in, and 9 in each direction.

Ok, thanks