Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby RudiJaeger » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:52 am

If it's any consolation, I've started over on the same route four times already over the past five years or so, for a variety of reasons... lack of experience / knowledge, too many asset dependencies, availability of better assets, etc. Currently, the project has become dormant, due to RL events. Fortunately, I've managed to avoid any major backup catastrophes, only because I try to be conscious about making a save-point after any work-intensive additions, and making a backup on an external drive after each session. Each backup is in a folder named with the date and sometimes a significant addition that might affect functionality of trackwork or signaling and such; for example, "05_MAR_2023_Longview_Wye". The backups go into a main folder with the route's name. After a while the folder can become cluttered with backups, so I usually delete any old backups that don't include a significant event in their title. I keep the one's with significant events, because with this sim, you never know when you might encounter some glitch that you never expected, and sometimes it's helpful to go back to the point of error (once identified) and start over, rather than trash the entire route.

Regarding the forests; the route I'm working on is set in Southwest Washington, so the underbrush is usually fairly thick. The way I replicate, is to place detailed grasses, trees, and shrubs trackside or along the edges of the forest. Rather than planting brush on the forest floor, I simply paint the forested terrain with a dark forest floor texture; this way, any gaps between the trees don't stand out as bare spots and the eye assumes that there is underbrush beneath the forest canopy, as illustrated in the following screenshots...

Screenshot_NP Tacoma Division, Longview - Centralia_01.jpg
Screenshot_Inland Empire_01.jpg

In contrast to Buzz, I'm a "helicopter guy" :D and I rarely run the sim from cab-view unless I have to operate controls and such. I prefer more of a model railroad view; so I'm not bashful about extending forested areas into the distance using framerate-friendly 2d tree assets, and beyond the 2d trees, I like to paint forested areas with textures to replicate fields, clear-cuts, etc...

Screenshot_NP Tacoma Division, Longview - Centralia_02.jpg
Screenshot_Inland Empire_02.jpg

Of course the downside to my philosophy, is that my route is nowhere close to being finished and perhaps never will be. !*don-know!*

I recently purchased the Pegnitz route (from Steam Store), an area I was very familiar with while stationed in Germany, and although it's a very nice route from track-level, I was a bit disappointed when I viewed from above and discovered the trackside forests did not extend very far from the tracks. I suppose it's related to framerates for the masses; but if I'm investing all my time into building a route, I want it to look like the actual terrain it's based on, even when viewed from above. With so many hardware configurations out there, I suppose it's a balancing act to create something that looks realistic and still achieve good frames with moderate hardware; and sorry, but I don't target laptop users when I consider framerates. I have a laptop too, but I don't run games on it. If a game comes out that I like, but I can't run it because of hardware limitations; then I'll upgrade to something that will run it. Over the years I've discovered that the ability to run flight sims smoothly, is usally the benchmark of a good gaming rig; if you can happily run a flight sim, you can usually run anything else with no problem.

Lastly, I like to keep a copy of Minerman's Bergen route that I can view in edit-mode and study his techniques. Now, I'm not saying that Minerman is better than other expert builders in our community; but for the most part he's built a massive route along with his son as his only assistant (AFAIK). Not only that, but the fact that the trackwork and signalling alone are fully functional is a testament to the craftsmanship that went into the build; and then there's the scenery... simply beautiful. So with all those aspects involved, it's my go-to route for getting ideas and learning the inner workings of route building.

I hope my two-cents has been helpful. Good luck with your route, and have fun with the build. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:49 pm

Thanks for the useful info RudiJaeger. This route has been being built on and off by myself over the past 10 years. I happen to have many conversations between Adam (minerman) and myself over various topics. He's been coaching me through this endeavor. So, that being said a lot of this route is thanks to him pushing me on. On the notes of backups. I do have a folder that I have backups in, I just don't backup often enough. (oops?). But I'm pushing on and hopefully I can get some new screenshots of better progress out soon and hopefully a release by sometime this year.
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:52 am

Hey all,

Long time no update...
So here's the latest on this project...

Had to re-do all the main line track elevation due to a little gradient snafu... I have the Conrail mainline fixed and working on the NS end. This gives me a chance to re-grade the route and make curves smoother in transitions. I also am trying to figure out what the best way for re-doing signals would be. I have a mix of G-Type and SafeTrans signals. I don't want to use too many providers for signals and was wondering what the best way would be to blend them together. One thing I noticed was the N-Line has a 2 over 2 signal for a signal post but not a gantry. That would be ideal for the signals at MP36.7 (Manville) as Main 1 (Old Royce Runner) has a 2 over 2 on the gantry facing west. Trying to get my aspects as close to real world as I can get them. I love how the RCAP signals look but some of my needed aspects are missing so that's a bummer. Any suggestions?

I'm also working on scenery all over the place as I go, so I'll have some re-vamped scenery as I complete scenes along the way. If anyone's interested... looking to test this beast out in the springtime. So if anyone wants to try it out let me know by PM.

Till next time...

-Ken
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby amtrak808 » Wed Jan 10, 2024 2:21 pm

Hey Ken,

Send me a PM because I cannot compose one at this time. I would be very interested in helping you test out this route as I also live along the Lehigh Line.
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Thu Feb 08, 2024 11:30 pm

Hey all,

Scenery work is beginning to take shape. Currently trying to figure out Phillipsburg, NJ. Working in the area of Union Square. I'm trying to figure out what buildings would represent the town well enough to make it passable. Can't figure out what to go with, granted scenery is not my strong point, but we'll see how it goes...

Here's a google maps link for reference if anyone wants to offer suggestions: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6915715,-75.2022915,3a,75y,59.79h,94.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seV87BTIhE9UhBUId99VP9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:34 am

Hi all...so I might have wandered off the beaten path...on a bit of a tangent...NJT Raritan Valley Line anyone?
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby italianbattalion » Fri Mar 08, 2024 4:53 pm

xxuntitledxx wrote:Hi all...so I might have wandered off the beaten path...on a bit of a tangent...NJT Raritan Valley Line anyone?

Yes please!
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Mon Mar 11, 2024 7:52 pm

Hey all,

So minor update...this route now includes the following:
- NS Harrisburg Line (Enola, PA - Reading, PA)
- NS Reading Line (Reading, PA - Allentown, PA)
- NS Lehigh Line (Allentown - Manville, NJ)
- Conrail Lehigh Line (Manville, NJ - Newark, NJ)
- Conrail Passaic and Harsimus Line (Newark, NJ - Croxton, NJ)
- Conrail National Docks Secondary (Branch) (Newark, NJ - Croxton, NJ)
- Conrail Garden State Secondary (Chemical Coastline) (Newark, NJ - Port Reading/Perth Amboy, NJ)
- Conrail Amboy Secondary (South Amboy, NJ - Browns Yard, Old Bridge, NJ)
- Conrail Port Reading Secondary (Bound Brook, NJ - Port Reading, NJ)
- NJT Raritan Valley Line (Newark, NJ - Raritan, NJ)
- NJT North Jersey Coast Line (Woodbridge, NJ - South Amboy, NJ)
- CSX River Line (Croxton, NJ up to North Bergen Yard)
- CSX Trenton Line (a few miles)
- And many more....

Who knows I may have most of the state done by the time I actually release this thing...

I hope no one is bored on this route (lol)

Stay tuned for pics of a lot of stuff...

-Ken
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby biddydog9000 » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:42 am

xxuntitledxx wrote:Hey all,

So minor update...this route now includes the following:
- NS Harrisburg Line (Enola, PA - Reading, PA)
- NS Reading Line (Reading, PA - Allentown, PA)
- NS Lehigh Line (Allentown - Manville, NJ)
- Conrail Lehigh Line (Manville, NJ - Newark, NJ)
- Conrail Passaic and Harsimus Line (Newark, NJ - Croxton, NJ)
- Conrail National Docks Secondary (Branch) (Newark, NJ - Croxton, NJ)
- Conrail Garden State Secondary (Chemical Coastline) (Newark, NJ - Port Reading/Perth Amboy, NJ)
- Conrail Amboy Secondary (South Amboy, NJ - Browns Yard, Old Bridge, NJ)
- Conrail Port Reading Secondary (Bound Brook, NJ - Port Reading, NJ)
- NJT Raritan Valley Line (Newark, NJ - Raritan, NJ)
- NJT North Jersey Coast Line (Woodbridge, NJ - South Amboy, NJ)
- CSX River Line (Croxton, NJ up to North Bergen Yard)
- CSX Trenton Line (a few miles)
- And many more....

Who knows I may have most of the state done by the time I actually release this thing...

I hope no one is bored on this route (lol)

Stay tuned for pics of a lot of stuff...

-Ken

looking forward to it! Questions will the route be uploaded on here the forum or somewhere else?
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:22 pm

Probably here first if the file isn’t too big.
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby biddydog9000 » Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:30 pm

xxuntitledxx wrote:Probably here first if the file isn’t too big.

ok !!*ok*!!
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby MickyMike24 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:07 pm

I'm excited for it!

Kinda like what the hi-line has, you could create some AI trains for quick drives! (Removes any boredom)
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Sun May 05, 2024 9:09 pm

Hey all,

Ran into a bit of a file issue but was able to resolve it…now I’m back on track (pun intended) to getting things done. Currently working on the area between Dorf and Prescott on the Harrisburg line. Laying down track, signaling, markers etc. Once I get to Enola and all track work is complete I’m going to fill in the blanks between the little bits of scenery. I’ve also found standards for distance from rails for signal placement, signs and what not from NS so I’m sticking to those standards. Hopefully this makes things more realistic and gives a better image of things from the cab.

Here’s to the next update!

Ken
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby MickyMike24 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 3:31 pm

Hey! How’s progress going?
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Re: Central Jersey Freight Lines (The Lehigh Line Project)

Unread postby xxuntitledxx » Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:25 pm

MickyMike24 wrote:Hey! How’s progress going?


Well, funny you'd ask that...

Progress is going slowly but surely. Finally reached Harrisburg (again). Working on the Pittsburgh Line part of things...(up to CP-Banks at the end of scenery), next is the Buffalo line...(a few miles of it), and then onto re-doing Enola Yard and some of the tracks that continue on past that. Once that's all done, trackwork is complete (for the NS portion). Still need to finish the Raritan Valley Line (up to Raritan). I also have some sections of the NEC and maybe North Jersey Coastline I'm going to throw in for added measure. Still deciding on that. But once the majority of trackwork is complete... Scenery, scenery, scenery.

As far as things I'm debating on/not too happy with are my choice of signals...yes, they display the proper aspects (for the most part), but I wish I had something more akin to the actual signals along the route. RCAP would have been a great choice if it weren't missing a few aspects I needed, or aspects with the correct links (like a Gantry mounted 1/3 for 3+ track links, single safetran intermediate signal, 2 over 2 block signal, etc.) I would be able to use the same signal pack across the whole route. But, instead I have to contend with mix and match. (Ugh).

So that's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always...

Until the next!

-Ken
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