Track Work Blues

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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:16 pm

BDWorkshop wrote: I guess I should stick with one type of track.


There is no need for that. You just need the two tracks at the turnout to be the same type.

I edited the pic you posted to show how you can salvage that specific track with minimal effort.

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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BDWorkshop » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:50 pm

Well it looks as if I hit a brick wall with my track work progress. The problem seems to be the making of junctions on curved yard tracks. As seen in the picture below, I can't seem to get the track to curve enough to follow the real yard track diagram.
I always face the same problem. The top of the cross (straight) track pictured here there is plenty of room for the junctions. As I move down the cross track there is less room for a junctions due to the big curve in the yard track. !*hp*!
Anybody have any ideas on how to deal with this?
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby krellnut » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:03 pm

The problem seems to be the making of junctions on curved yard tracks


Whatever trackrule your using open it in xml, and change yard radius to; 75. Convert back to bin, and you will be able to make curves that tight. If you need it tighter, then make it tighter. Just be aware that most rolling pieces may not be able to navigate corners that tight.
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BDWorkshop » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:21 pm

krellnut wrote:
The problem seems to be the making of junctions on curved yard tracks


Whatever trackrule your using open it in xml, and change yard radius to; 75. Convert back to bin, and you will be able to make curves that tight. If you need it tighter, then make it tighter. Just be aware that most rolling pieces may not be able to navigate corners that tight.


If I adjust the track rule then it can't be shared on Steam. Also, if the rolling stock can't navigate the turns then there is really no point in making the route in the first place.

Any other suggestions? Anybody?
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby krellnut » Thu Oct 29, 2015 1:28 pm

Whatever trackrule your using now you can change the values while building. Even if you go back to default values, nothing gets damaged on the route. The default trackrule will be fine after your finished. I'm only saying 75 so you can make corners that tight. The corners in your picture may not be that tight. Why don't you try it first instead of saying it won't work? Then run a train over it to see how it works. My bet is it will be fine. If you don't like the idea of changing values, then the only other thing you can do to make this situation work is the track that you laid to make the junctions with has to be more parallel to the yard tracks. That will reduce the radius needed. But then if your using Google Overlay, the ladder won't line up with the image, and you may not like that either. Change the values, it works great!
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BDWorkshop » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:31 pm

krellnut wrote:Whatever trackrule your using now you can change the values while building. Even if you go back to default values, nothing gets damaged on the route. The default trackrule will be fine after your finished. I'm only saying 75 so you can make corners that tight. The corners in your picture may not be that tight. Why don't you try it first instead of saying it won't work? Then run a train over it to see how it works. My bet is it will be fine. If you don't like the idea of changing values, then the only other thing you can do to make this situation work is the track that you laid to make the junctions with has to be more parallel to the yard tracks. That will reduce the radius needed. But then if your using Google Overlay, the ladder won't line up with the image, and you may not like that either. Change the values, it works great!


I'm afraid to say that 75 does get it closer, but it's still not tight enough. Should I go a bit lower? Or am I just wasting my time & effort on something that can't be replicated in Railworks.
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby krellnut » Thu Oct 29, 2015 2:49 pm

No, go lower till you can make the joint. Then run a train over it to see how it works. Then you'll know how tight to make curves from here on in. Once you find the tightest radius you want to have, when you run into a situation that your new value isn't tight enough you will have to tweak the track to suit. I run 75 on the yards, but very rarely do I make corner that tight. But I have made them as tight as 50 and cars will still run through them, but only at yard speeds. This is the only place you would ever have curves this tight.
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BDWorkshop » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:16 pm

I'm getting so close to success that I can smell it! I lowered the track radius to 65 and then to 55. I've been able to get all of the junctions connected except one. I can understand what's stopping it from working. I tried all the tricks I know of to get it working, does anybody else have any ideas?

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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby krellnut » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:38 pm

Your trying to make a junction over welded track, see the red triangle. The only way to fix it is by moving the red triangle back by deleting some of the yard track back from the area your making the junction and extend the track again. You will see what I mean as you play around with it.
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Re: Track Work Blues

Unread postby BDWorkshop » Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:54 pm

krellnut wrote:Your trying to make a junction over welded track, see the red triangle. The only way to fix it is by moving the red triangle back by deleting some of the yard track back from the area your making the junction and extend the track again. You will see what I mean as you play around with it.


I believe I got it now! Thanks for your help. *!!thnx!!*
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