General Electric U34CH & Dieseliner Coaches by Pullman Standard

[minerman146]

Kris this model is based of the Norfolk Southern Big 7s by DTM. If this is the same unit you are referring to by regulators, do you mean the air brake or throttle?

Thanks

MM

[minerman146]

And now some more updates:
Regarding ALL Units

1. **DONE** Remove Wheel Grind Sound -it not needed and is distracting.
7. **DONE** Horn cuts off and is too short. The loop is too short and cuts off when you let it go.

7. was a big deal: I was able to source sounds from the actual horns. For the U34CH we have a Leslie SU3L, possible Erie Lackawanna and for the Cab Car an actual SU3L pulled from a PS (Comet I) cab car. The horns have a pitch and tone difference that is discern-able. So, these sounds were not scraped off of YouTube, I got them from a man with the horns and they are very clean. I also found out the root cause of the horn issue in the first place, which was the start sound was replaying at the end. It took 10 hours for me to figure out the proxyxml for the sound and how to loop and modify the sounds starting form zero experience. One of the cool things about the sound is if you touch the spacebar for about 1 second you get the Start and End loop nicely blended for a short horn application. The break in the loop is muffled.

Right now the unit is out to one of you guys for review but with the first set of horns. i just did the Cab horns tonight.

As I stated before all the fixes will be applied to the existing NJT U34CH and cab car as an update. In addition, progress is being made as well on the Electric Holding Brake system that we spent a month previously working on. This is the key feature of this push pull configuration and will change the way you currently use the model.

[kris120]

Ok, I've tried a loco of the "Big 7s". The problem with the sound is the same like with the BN and UP, which are not available at steam:
Regulator 0% -> 12% more or less ok.
Regulator 12% -> 25% crap !!! Noone did hear this ???
Regulator 25% -> 37% ok (and above)
Lowering:
Steps between 100% and 25% are ok
25% -> 12% ???

I will further investigate.

Remark: I did not write "crap" - used a much more awful word - this is censorship !

[buzz456]

There is no first amendment rights on here for that very reason among others.

[mindenjohn]

Moderators are named that for a reason. That use of offensive language maybe the rule on the street, it is not necessary here

[minerman146]

Gentlemen, please take this outside my thread.
I appreciate your cooperation

[GenericZack]

I respect that.

[minerman146]

I thought you guys liked my content of the trials and tribulation of trying to get one's dream train made.

You know I don't have post all this stuff. And you also know I can go waaaaay off topic. Like sooo.

Gentleman! I said no fighting in the War Room.
Carry on!

[minerman146]

If there are no objections I will be flagging the comments so the broken beer bottles and bar stools can get cleaned up.


Have a beer on me.

Someday I will try and post what it's like to go back and forth with just email to try and make a nice model.

[kris120]

Sorry, keep cool.
I did not thought that this would be offensive language, only a more emphasized one.
Please note that English is not my mother tongue.

[minerman146]

RELEASE PENDING

I got an email this morning from DTM asking me if they can release the EL-NJDOT and the Silvernose Early NJT Version (sans NJDOT logo and NJT Logo). It's time to wrap this up. The Brake research and work was progressing until a month ago. A request was sent to another developer to look at the brakes (Reppo) and he is very busy. Next up was to contact Smokebox as he is the original programmer. If Smokebox reads this and is willing to take a look at the script PLEASE contact me. What were doing is trying to configure Electric Holding Brakes which were used on this unit.

Bottom line - the EL-NJDOT model is the better one. The reason I states this is that the cab car is a duplicate of the Pullman/GE controls from 1971-73. I know this as I have the plans. This was supposed to be the core of the set. If you recall, 3 variants were to be issued at the same time. But this was rejected by a young lady in the NJT Marketing Dept as it was "very, very old". Olden is relative and that was their call. So, here we are again and I am DYING to get this out. I find the timing interesting as the guy we were asking help from just released a U36 for the Clinchfield Route. (I might convey my thoughts over on my other thread) But hey, we got ourselves Uboatpalooza going on!

FYI - the version before this one (which I have and have been taking pictures of) has 95% of the fixes (not the brakes) I had sent this unit to a fellow here on RWA who uh made some insightful observations regarding the NJT U34CH. They were so heartfelt and poignant. As I use that word as his final recommendation was "maybe" get it on sale. So, I reached out to him and sent him the model. He loved it! I look forward to his review in the future.

Here is the deal with the horns. 1. Horn suck in this simulator, I just don't get why that is. People always have to mod them. 2. I 'wanted' to make it my mission to do decent horns. And this did not work out to my satisfaction. 3. So, I paid for the rights to use THE REAL HORNS to put on this model. 4. I, Minerman, slaved away for 20 hours over a hot computer to get them to pretty darn good level. 5. If you don't like the horns now - fight me!

Next up is the NJDOT logos: NJT won't let us put them on the unit as they are not in keeping with their modern image. Speaking of modern and I am just spitballing here, what would be the result of a survey of overall service and on-time rate of the Erie Lackawanna vs New Jersey Transit? Same lines, just 50 years difference without the fancy German motive power. "Modern Image" yep m o d e r n, now do the comparison. Now that I have communicated my feelings, I can move on. So, what you will get, at my suggestion, is white circle with a red outline AND access to a nice much more accurate logo from me and Cesar that you can 'easily' add yourself. See this shot below:

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Last we fixed the door closing alarm as the one we are using now is for a Comet IV. Now it will sound like a school bell ( you know the one that let you know you were running late to class) So, instead of working on the route this weekend I will be exhaustively re-testing everything to my satisfaction and then let you know when were ready to release my baby.

* the comments above are the opinions of the writer (me - da minerman) and in no way reflects the opinions of any in the production of this model nor of this website.
Erie Lackawanna: 95.9 Per Cent On‐Time Mark (source: https://www.nytimes.com/1971/08/16/arch ... ality.html)
New Jersey Transit: On-Time Performance (OTP) for June 2020 (with a 6 minute window ) 97.7% on the Bergen SIX MINUTE WINDOW! (source: https://www.njtransit.com/improve/on-ti ... mance/rail)
*annoyed that we didn't get the logos approved? YOUBETCHA!

Here is the Money Quote from the New York Times ( its a very relevant article by the way)

HOBOKEN, N. Y.—Inside the faded, 1930‐model Erie Lackawanna commuter car, typical of the line's electric coaches, it was 90 degrees during the rush hour the other afternoon —a dripping, dog‐day 90 degrees.

A Wall Street banker, who had been lucky enough to get his window open, sprawled comfortably on the ancient rat tan seat, sloshed a highball around in a plastic cup and contemplated the ride home to Short Hills, N. J., with equanimity.

“They really know how to run a railroad,” he said.

On practically any other rail road such a comment at a time like that would probably have been drenched in sarcasm.

But the banker, and many thousands of North Jersey commuters who have praised the line, mean just what they say. The reason is reliable, on‐time performance, rain or shine, summer and winter.

[buzz456]

[minerman146]

Was I too hard on NJT?

[Schnauzahpowahz]

[minerman146]

Here is the Pullman/GE cab - not the butcher job that Bombardier did.

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And why yes, its "very, very old" too.