General Electric U34CH & Dieseliner Coaches by Pullman Standard

[OpenRailer90]

I sent them my Comet sound pack and horn/bell sounds and am pretty disappointed that my Comet run sounds are not even implemented and how poorly looped the horn is. Guess an update for my Comet sound pack is in order...

[minerman146]

I sent them my Comet sound pack and horn/bell sounds and am pretty disappointed that my Comet run sounds are not even implemented and how poorly looped the horn is. Guess an update for my Comet sound pack is in order...

I didn't email you about that as I thought I would get to the correction in cleanup. I had it at version 18 or so, the coach sound was awesome. Then it vanished in another version with only the door sound. The last month was fixing/attempting to fix the brakes. I share your disappointment.
(Spoke with Cesar - he didnt know how to make your sound "work' with the model) Im not sure what that means ...but now that you have the model can you configure the sound - and we can post as an update?

You know I want this right.

[minerman146]

Consider this a post - release update. Spending the last 2 hours with Cesar, I updated him on some needed fixes and changes that I was aware of, but were also picked up by the community at release. (like the wheel rubbing screeching) Yes, I am lurking on ALL social media and YouTube for reactions.
Reactions are as expected (see wheel rubbing) but they are also favorable. The most important bit of feed back is that the low-doors and the other and original iterations of the U34CH are missing and you all want them! These would need to be released in the market place. What we will attempt to do, is have the following added to the pack itself:

Cab Car
1. Cab Car Low Door - Blue and Red Stripe (NO NJT Logo) on sides - No logo on the Cab
2. Cab Car Low Door - Blue and Red Stripe (NO NJT Logo) - No logo on the Cab

Coach
1. Low Door - Big Black Stripe, (NO NJT Logo) on Sides
2. Low Door - Blue and Red Stripe (NO NJT Logo) on sides

EL - NJDOT
Cab Car Low Door - Blue and Red Stripe - EL logo and no NJDOT logo
Coach Low Door - Blue and Red Stripe - EL logo and no NJDOT logo

U34CH
Blue with Silver Nose - No NJTLOGO
Blue with Red and Silver Stripe on Nose with EL logo and no NJDOT logo

This is the way the original package was envisioned. The idea was to cover almost all of the paint and logo variants of the U34CH and PS Coach.
Cesar says that the locations of where the logos go are "decals" and you guys should find it simple to locate them and put what you need to in the empty space. Hopefully this will address the issue with you folks and allow us to respect the requirements by NJT. I also hope that DTG will make this accommodation for the model to benefit all of us. The amount of work that when into the cab car of the original Comet 1 and make it accurate so that that you can understand and appreciate how GE and PS worked together to make this set. So if the release is repackaged or comes out in marketplace - these WILL be available either way.

I want this model too!

Thank you for your attention.

[OpenRailer90]

I sent them my Comet sound pack and horn/bell sounds and am pretty disappointed that my Comet run sounds are not even implemented and how poorly looped the horn is. Guess an update for my Comet sound pack is in order...

I didn't email you about that as I thought I would get to the correction in cleanup. I had it at version 18 or so, the coach sound was awesome. Then it vanished in another version with only the door sound. The last month was fixing/attempting to fix the brakes. I share your disappointment.
(Spoke with Cesar - he didnt know how to make your sound "work' with the model) Im not sure what that means ...but now that you have the model can you configure the sound - and we can post as an update?

You know I want this right.

All good, i noticed the door chime included is the Comet IV, which is incorrect for the Comet I as per my friends that bought them. I have a door chime for the Arrow III in my Comet pack that's very close to what the Comet Is had though.

[amtrak808]

Now this is just wishful thinking, but in this supposed marketplace pack, would it be possible to include a high door variant with ditchlights?

[minerman146]

Now this is just wishful thinking, but in this supposed marketplace pack, would it be possible to include a high door variant with ditchlights?

We have the research material to the ditch lights, Comet II and the Cab Car interior. Its up to DTM to continue the series of coaches/cab cars.
We shall see.

[Amtrak973]

If they were to continue the comet series and do the comet II coach and cab cars they should do the ABB ALP-44 locomotive with it

[sully7302]

In an effort to make them look better, I have attempted to upgrade the texture by darkening the roof and trucks, the grilles, and moving the disco stripes up towards the cab like how they were painted in real life.

[thor1969]

A nice model overall, like running it - especially with the custom sounds around here in another thread.
Found no real flaws that ruin the experience with it, only a small issue might be, that the brake cylinder of the Control Cab remains at 0.4 PSI or so when fully released.

I read the information about brake system here, as I understand the planned more prototypical brake could not be implemented. Noticed a message when a scenario starts that states something about "brake notch simulation disabled".
Are this remains from the planned brake system improvements or does is anything? I adjusted the input mapper to make this control switched on and off, but not sure it does anything besides from displaying "Brakenotch Simulation enabled". I think I can handel the brake more precise, but this might be wish :-) Since I find it difficult to apply the amount I want. Although, after driving some miles now I get more and more used to it.
Minerman, do you have any infromation about this feature?

Kind regards

Thorsten

[minerman146]

Thor - good question and thank you!
What we were trying to replicate was 2 things.
1. Service Quadrant
2. Electric Hold

In the previously posted image of the brake handle we had 5 positions: Release, Electric Hold, Lap-handle off, Service and Emergency.
The only "notch" where brake application starts is as Service. Moving the handle past service starts to release air and you make an application. The service position itself is at 60-65% on the HUD handle. So, you could park the handle at 59% with out any application being made, then pushing the handle further to the right you could make a reduction of 5, 10, 15lbs and so on. To use electric hold (which I believe is like LAP), you make a reduction say of 10lbs, then pull the handle back to the Electric Hold position and leave it there. What you get is a continuous 10lb brake AND the air is recharging. If you wanted to add more air to the application you go the Service Quadrant, and add more pounds. To release and use the brakes 'normally' you go all the way back to release and then past Service to make a regular, non-electric hold application.

Our issue was that setting the brake like this - we lost notches and you had to find the service quadrant by eye (at 59%) on the HUD, and then pull the handle back, really anywhere between 20-50% on the HUD. AND because the brakes were not NOTCHED we couldn't label the HUD to show "EH, LAP, SERV" and so on - it was just %. And lastly - we couldn't get this to translate at all to the brake on the Cab Car. I was way way beyond my ability at that point - and started asking for help here. In the end we had to scrap the idea. My father said what we had was the closest to the way the brakes were supposed to operate. What he wanted was notches so the handle would rest in each position - the labels and % were meaningless to him. (and he has train simulator, I was watching his session remotely and speaking to him on the phone while he ran tests)

If you get bored and want to do my test run - Get on the Bergen going West starting at Plauderville ... get the speed to 60 MPH, bring the handle forward to 80% at take off 20lbs (watch the brake pipe gauge) at 50 seconds from the Fairlawn Station
then pull back to 25% it should hold at 20lbs. But this is how you can fake it with the as released version. And its very fiddly, it took me 3 tries to do it before I posted this.

Regarding implementing this - a volunteer came forward to take a stab at it, he has the version (#32 of 42) and the code. I would suspect it will take him at least a week to determine if he can do it, if, at all.

In my opinion, after HEP, the Electric Hold function is what makes the U34CH the U34CH.

[OpenRailer90]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/f0hl22ia1uc[/youtube]

Someone made a modpack here

[rarecommonsense]

While I personally do like this DLC, I think My biggest gripe aside from the obvious physics/braking issue, is the dimensions. I honestly had my worries about it while it was still in development. After having made a consist mixed with the older comet dlc, I noticed that the roof is higher and the car width is a little wider. I had feared this would be the case and hoped that the DTG Comets had been used as a reference, dimension-wise, so they would blend in better. I'm still happy these were made at all. Just my issue with it.

[minerman146]

Regarding Dimensions. I have the building specifications and drawings. I never measured the model before. And remember Cesar had to convert English to Metric and he was none to happy.

Length over pulling face of coupler:
PULLMAN: 85'-0"
DTM : 86'-0"

Length, center to center of trucks:
PULLMAN: 59'-6"
DTM : 58'-6"

Width, over side sheets:
PULLMAN: 10'-6"
DTM: 10'-6"

Height, rail to top of roof clarlines, light car
PULLMAN: 12'-8"
DTM: 12'-9"

Not to dern shabby DTM!

Rarecommonsence, this is the first time I put a ruler up against the model. The proportion looked solid when I had the model the first time. And now I remember being asked to confirm and reconfirm the numbers on the print to the spec sheet. I am very pleased it turned out this way.

If anyone has real numbers from Bombardier, it would be interesting to compare. I think RC was concerned that we would use numbers instead of the proportions off of the DTG Comets. I didnt think of doing that!

[rarecommonsense]

Minerman, as the Wikipedia page I saw, here are the dimensions

Specifications
Car length 85 ft (25.91 m)
Width 10.5 ft (3.2 m)

I was trying to see if the manual for the shorelines or the comets had the information.. But they only focused on the locos, mainly..

[OpenRailer90]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/z44gm9tn9 ... A.rar/file Comet soundpack updated to support Comet I cars in DTM U34CH pack. My S3L horn for the Comet I is also included the way it was intended to be implemented