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Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:07 pm

Another image from GameCom showing the new scenario message. What's interesting are those PRR 50 ft boxcars in the background. Hmmm.... !*hp*!

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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby bsrrco » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:16 pm

Third one in appears to be a coal hopper
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby styckx » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:16 pm

Simone has eagle eyes. :)
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby micaelcorleone » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:49 pm

That is another clue to the new route that'll come with RW 3.

We pretty sure know that it is located in the northeastern US, most likely in the Alleghenys. Also from videos of RW3, we know that it has 4 tracks, at least in some parts.
Someone on FB said that this could be the Horseshoe Curve in the Pennsy time with it's 4 tracks.

The Pennsy boxcars we can see above seem to confirm this theory and the time period. I dare to predicate that the new RW3 route will include the Horseshoe Curve in the 50s.
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby Chessie8638 » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:35 pm

If that's correct expect locomotives also. Nothing currently in Railworks can actually model the Pennsy in the 50's. Except for the F units, and they need some modification to the body to look accurate.


Come to think of it, I'll take a guess and say that's Altoona in the screenshot. *!!wink!!*
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Unread postby styckx » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:40 pm

PRR steam please.. I'm sick of diesels. :D
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Unread postby micaelcorleone » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:52 pm

styckx wrote:PRR steam please.. I'm sick of diesels. :D

I so wish for a T1 Duplex with matching passenger cars. Pleeeease! **!!bow!!**

Clear Track Ahead film featuring the T1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70KJsjIaDVU&feature=related
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby styckx » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:11 pm

micaelcorleone wrote:I so wish for a T1 Duplex with matching passenger cars. Pleeeease! **!!bow!!**

Clear Track Ahead film featuring the T1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70KJsjIaDVU&feature=related


How every single one of these managed to make it to scrap should be one of the top 10 greatest mysteries on Earth. Absolutely beautiful engines and represented America at the time to a T. Big, Big, Big, Scary, and ridiculously powerful.
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Unread postby kevarc » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:30 pm

And not worth the metal they were made of. They needed 24/7 TLC.
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby dbarree » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:10 am

Chessie8638 wrote:Come to think of it, I'll take a guess and say that's Altoona in the screenshot. *!!wink!!*


Having grown up in Altoona, that shot looks like it could be the Juniata Shops except that the brick appears to be too pink.
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Unread postby steve_the_slim » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:45 am

I just watched the "Clear Track Ahead" video. Holy crap, cab signals in steamers in the 1940's?!? I never thought I'd see that.
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby Toripony » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:00 am

styckx wrote: Big, Big, Big, Scary, and ridiculously powerful.


Never heard it said better! Although the H8 Alleghany is listed as around 850,000 lbs, with loaded tender it totalled 1.1 million lbs! That's ridiculously impressive! I don't know for sure, but I've only seen one diesel loco that boasts 7500 HP (the UP DD40?). Talk about earth-shaking... wish I had been alive when these monsters were rattling this little house in the hills.
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby micaelcorleone » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:01 am

steve_the_slim wrote:I just watched the "Clear Track Ahead" video. Holy crap, cab signals in steamers in the 1940's?!? I never thought I'd see that.

Ah, love those old documentaries and propaganda films.

This one is also interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vomP_n4viio&feature=related
"PRR Progress on the Rails" - interesting how they reused scenes from the "Clear Track Ahead" film
It also explains how the cab signal system works.
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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby Chock » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:19 am

Whilst there may be PRR fifty foot boxcars and a hopper in that pic, which could indeed be from the steam era, the driver giving the instructions is in what looks like a diesel cab and more importantly, he's wearing a high visibility jacket, neither of which would make it early era, more like the 1980s at the earliest for such an outfit, which would actually be anachronistic of course since the PRR finished up in '68 when it merged, although theoretically at least, there would still be PRR liveried rolling stock kicking about for a few years awaiting repainting. Of course that outfit might just be the way a standard instruction screen appears, which doesn't take historical dress into account, so that alone is not conclusive.

But... just because there is PRR stock doesn't mean there is a PRR route, since it could be for a classification yard scenario creating cuts of cars for a train which would be going on a route that doesn't actually exist in the sim, in much the same way as Railworks currently has you driving portions of routes for trains that are going to and from locations which aren't actually in the sim.

The screenies with what looked like a Norfolk Southern loco on the Horseshoe Curve minus the cat's whiskers would seem to indicate that the NS Pittsburgh Division, or at least part of it, is going to be the new route. Which will suit me because that's exactly what my HO model railway models as well! NS is a bit more PR-savvy than most US railroads, so that kind of fits the supposition too, and of course such a route would be suitable for Southern, Norfolk and Western, Norfolk Southern, Conrail, PRR, CSX, Delaware and Hudson, NYS&W, CN, Pan Am etc, and even very occasionally UP and SF, plus a number of shortlines that run branches off it as well as some big coal-hauling steam locos and heritage passenger trains, so it would be a sensible choice for a variety of payware scenarios and add ons, especially since you currently have to mostly go with MSTS or Trainz to get some decent Eastern US action in a train sim.

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Re: Pennsylvania Railroad Confirmed in RW3(?)

Unread postby steve_the_slim » Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:49 pm

I just realized something. PRR is one of the names that is jointly owned by NS and CSX, right? If RSC has the rights to use the PRR name, does that mean they finally got a CSX license?
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