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Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:15 pm

I just bought the RWA line eagerly waiting to run the Connie on it.

-Installed route
-Installed both patches
-Installed rolling stock update
-Installed veg mod
-Installed the Consolidation pack as required by the scenarios
-Installed the 3 scenarios


So when I start scenario #1 it says I'm missing some truck. Also my Connie has no tender.
I tried the 3rd scenario, and the Connie has no tender.

I assumed everything was needed in the route .rwp package + the Connie addon pack, but apparently I need something else? And where is my tender???

I have TS2017 58.8a
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby harryadkins » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:50 pm

Does the scenario call for the RWA repaint of the Connie? If so, you need to download and install per the instructions.
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:57 pm

The repaints were probably done before everything got packed into .AP files. so before installing, you also need to make sure you unpack the .AP.

Also, the latest patches to the Connie mean that some things don't work quite right in the old repaints, such as the smoke. I need to update all the repaints when I find the time to do it.
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:47 pm

Ok unpacking the Consolidation seemed to do the trick.

Now scenario 3 just gives me the dump file. Before it worked, just without the tender showing...


Also, how do I get advanced mode? This seems to be a HUD Connie?
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:51 pm

Ok, so if I replace the Connie with another steamer, the scenario loads.

Hmm..
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:36 am

I've whittled the issue down to the Consolidation engine. No matter what Connie engine I use, whether it be the RWA engine, or the ADV or HUD engines, the scenario dumps as it's loading. The Connie tender works fine, cause I loaded it up with a Black 5MT and the scenario worked.

So anyone have a clue what the issue might be with the Connie engine? Scenario 1 and 2 work fine.
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:18 pm

Can you try it with logmate running, to see the messages just before the dump?
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:36 pm

[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] Track Rule missing: ////
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] ASSERT(mTrackRule != 0);
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] Network::iTrackNetworkTrackRule::cPropertyValue::setTrackRule()
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] C:\build\CoreRelease\Code\\PublicInterfaces\iTrackNetworkProperties.d.h : 84
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] Track Rule missing: ////
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] ASSERT(mTrackRule != 0);
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] Network::iTrackNetworkTrackRule::cPropertyValue::setTrackRule()
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:07 PM] C:\build\CoreRelease\Code\\PublicInterfaces\iTrackNetworkProperties.d.h : 84
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM] Assertion failed
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM] ASSERT(mStartPos.isNearCurrentOrigin());
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM] cCurveStraight::setTangent()
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:08 PM] cCurveStraight.cpp : 372
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Verify failed:
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM] Expression: mEntity != 0
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[RunTimeError 2:35:09 PM]
[RunTimeError 2:35:11 PM] Trace mdump.cpp : 381 = Dump taken
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:39 pm

Is that the trace in the "All" tab of the logmate output, or only the runtime errors output? The errors all look normal (nothing there that would cause the dump).
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:22 pm

That was everything that printed out in the window when I ran TS.
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:39 am

fscotte55 wrote:That was everything that printed out in the window when I ran TS.


I think it's printing only the runtime errors. Try putting this in the Set Launch Options (steam client > Library > Train Simulator > Properties > Set Launch Options):

-LogMate -SetLogFilters="All" -lua-debug-messages


If that doesn't show anything obvious, then given that the same loco and tender work fine in other scenarios, it might be that scenario 3 uses more assets and you simply run out of memory.
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 10:30 am

[Engine 10:30:05 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainSkyDome.fx
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[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] Track Rule missing: ////
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[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] ASSERT(mTrackRule != 0);
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[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] C:\build\CoreRelease\Code\\PublicInterfaces\iTrackNetworkProperties.d.h : 84
[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] Track Rule missing: ////
[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] ASSERT(mTrackRule != 0);
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[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] Network::iTrackNetworkTrackRule::cPropertyValue::setTrackRule()
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[RunTimeError 10:30:06 AM] C:\build\CoreRelease\Code\\PublicInterfaces\iTrackNetworkProperties.d.h : 84
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[RunTimeError 10:30:07 AM] Assertion failed
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[RunTimeError 10:30:07 AM] ASSERT(mStartPos.isNearCurrentOrigin());
[RunTimeError 10:30:07 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:07 AM] cCurveStraight::setTangent()
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[RunTimeError 10:30:07 AM] cCurveStraight.cpp : 372
[Engine 10:30:07 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainDecal.fx
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[Engine 10:30:07 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect SkinDiffuse.fx
[Engine 10:30:10 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect soar.fx
[Engine 10:30:10 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect LoftTexDiffSpec.fx
[Engine 10:30:10 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect LoftTexDiff.fx
[Engine 10:30:10 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect LoftTexDiffAlpha.fx
[Engine 10:30:10 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect LoftBumpTrans.fx
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[Streaming 10:30:11 AM] Trace Core\cFxStreamFile.cpp : 244 = cFxStreamFile failed to load: @os:c/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/RailWorks/Assets/missingtexture.TgPcDx
[Engine 10:30:14 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainBasicObjectDiffuse.fx
[Engine 10:30:14 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainUprightViewFacingFlora.fx
[Engine 10:30:14 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainEmissiveGlow.fx
[Engine 10:30:14 AM] Trace DxCommon\cHcEffectDx.cpp : 134 = Creating effect TrainSpecEnv.fx
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Verify failed:
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Verify failed:
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
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[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Expression: mEntity != 0
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[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
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[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
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[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
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[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] cLevelCrossingProperty.cpp : 139
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM] Expression: mEntity != 0
[RunTimeError 10:30:14 AM]
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[Scenario Manager 10:30:20 AM] Trace cCareerModel.cpp : 293 = cCareerModel::GetIntStat ( experience )
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:30 am

Hmm, nothing unusual there, unfortunately, which implies that it's probably just a memory problem. Unless you can edit it yourself to remove some of the AI, you'll just have to forget about that scenario.

By the way, did you verify the game files, just to make sure?
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby fscotte55 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 12:51 pm

Yes I verified.

Thanks for checking into it. Does the Connie HUD OR ADV use a lot more memory than most engines?
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Re: Problems with RWA route and Connie scenarios.

Unread postby mrennie » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:28 pm

fscotte55 wrote:Yes I verified.

Thanks for checking into it. Does the Connie HUD OR ADV use a lot more memory than most engines?


It uses more than the much more basic locomotives but less than some other advanced locos such as the FEF-3. I've seen people running as many as six of them in close proximity in the same scenario. Do you have a low-, mid- or high-end computer?
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