Need Help Understanding Pathname Reference

[FHRob]

This is from the SD70 Pack 2 Hornproxy.xml file:

<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70ACePack01</Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack01\Audio

Could somebody explain the pathname reference? I don't have a folder "SD70ACePack01" yet the horn works.

Thanks,

Rob

[krellnut]

<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70ACePack01</Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\T_SD70_HW_HornLoop.dav</Filename>

Actually,your wrong. The Filename says; SD70Pack02.


1.<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound</Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound\SD70\Audio\710-0%.wav</Filename>

2.<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString"></Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound\SD70\Audio\710-0%.wav</Filename>

3.<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound</Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">SD70\Audio\710-0%.wav</Filename>

4.<Pathname d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound\SD70\Audio</Pathname>
<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">710-0%.wav</Filename>

5.<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">WJ Sound\SD70\Audio\710-0%.wav</Filename>

I just tried this the five ways listed, and this was the result;
1.Works
2.Works
3.Doesn't work
4.Doesn't work
5.Works

In example 5 I eliminated the Pathname line altogether, and it works. It would seem the Pathname is not needed at all, why its there is anybody's guess.

[FHRob]

Krellnut:

You're correct - the file reference in my original post should have been to SD70 Pack 02. My bad on this.

I tried installing the "SD70MAC_SD70ACe_Horns" update, which is in the file library here. It contains revised horn sounds for Pack 02 in .wav format, and a revised horn.proxyxml file. When I installed the files in accordance with the included instructions, the horn sounds disappear. I thought the path reference might be the culprit, but as you pointed out a path line isn't needed.

What I'm never sure about is how the horn.proxyxml file relates to the horn.proxybin file.

Rob

[Chacal]

The proxybin file is the result of packing, or compressing, the proxyxml file, using serz.exe or RW-Tools.
It is essential that both be present, and that both have exactly the same content.

See this post.

[FHRob]

The proxybin file is the result of packing, or compressing, the proxyxml file, using serz.exe or RW-Tools.
It is essential that both be present, and that both have exactly the same content.

See this post.

Hi Chacal:

Thanks for the explanation regarding bin and xml files.

I'm still not getting a horn sound.

I have the following in the bin & xml files, and in the cab folder:

Bin File shows:

Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_Loop.wav</Filename>

<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_End.wav</Filename>

<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_Start.wav</Filename>

XML File shows:

<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_Loop.wav</Filename>

<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_End.wav</Filename>

<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70MAC_Horn_Start.wav</Filename>

Sound File names from Cab Folder:

SD70MAC_Horn_Loop.wav

SD70MAC_Horn_End.wav

SD70MAC_Horn_Start.wav

I used RW Tools to make all modifications to the xml and bin files.

If you need any other information, or want me to e-mail a file, please let me know.

Rob

[Chacal]

Have you checked with your text editor that the proxyxml file has been saved in ANSI encoding, and NOT in Unicode?

If it is OK, I would do the obvious:
1- Clear the blueprint cache (Settings / Tools / Clear cache).
2- Reinstall the "SD70MAC_SD70ACe_Horns" update, making sure the files end up in the correct folder. I have checked this package and it seems OK.
3- Check the whole blueprint chain:
a) Open the engine blueprint Assets\RSC\SD70Pack02\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70\Default\Engine\SD70ACe_bnsf.bin
b) Find the "Horn" child, check this line: <BlueprintID d:type="cDeltaString">Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70 Horn Sound.xml</BlueprintID>.
c) Open the horn sound blueprint Assets\RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70 Horn Sound.bin.
d) Check this line: <ProxyName d:type="cDeltaString">RSC\SD70Pack02\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD70ACe\Cab\SD70 Horn</ProxyName>.

[FHRob]

Chacal:

I tried all the steps you suggested with no change.

Once I install the new proxyxml file, and the three wave sounds, the horn is gone.

I tried installing the Pack 3 version, and same result - the horn takes a holiday.

If you have any other ideas, let me know.

Thanks again,

Rob :)

[krellnut]

It is essential that both be present,

I don't know about horns, but for engine audio you don't need proxybin files. I delete them with no problems at all. As far as I know, this game doesn't need proxybins for audio to work.

[Chacal]

There is at least one case where they need to be, according to my tests, but I don't remember what it is.
I think it was with some wagon audio. Possibly for Dick's Russell snow plow.