Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

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Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby Railwayfan1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:45 pm

Im looking for someone to do the UP Business Coach used on the 4014 Excursions (Please don't tell me about the MSTS Business Coach)
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:03 pm

Picture please.
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby Railwayfan1 » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:25 pm

buzz456 wrote:Picture please.

https://imgur.com/a/LW7OjxR
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby harryadkins » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:43 pm

The paint job is not that hard but there are distinct differences between the Britkits heavyweights and this car.

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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby Railwayfan1 » Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:49 pm

harryadkins wrote:The paint job is not that hard but there are distinct differences between the Britkits heavyweights and this car.

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If I knew how to add Child Objects I would add them to resemble the real life car
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby wopflyer » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:17 am

The car in question is the No.99 "Kenefick".

"The "Kenefick" was built by Pullman in 1950 as coach No. 5446. It was rebuilt to business car No. 99 in 1963. It was officially named the "Kenefick" in 1988." ( https://www.up.com/heritage/fleet/histo ... /index.htm )

So, either it was built as a traditional Heavyweight car and then streamlined when rebuilt. Or, it was built streamlined and the heavyweight style bogies (trucks) were added when it was rebuilt. Either way, you are talking about having a new model made if you want something exact.

And like it or not, the MSTS Conversion Business Car "is" the closest we have right now. But, having the Britkits heavyweight business car repainted in the correct UP colors and lettering to match the G-Trax UP cars, would be pretty nice as an alternative until such time that somebody makes a better "full Set" of heavyweight cars, or a full set of the current UP heritage fleet.

Child objects might help to change the BritKits car, but you are talking about the whole roof being augmented. That might be possible, but it might be more realistic to just repaint the car as close as possible and pretend the roof is correct.
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby EngineerTJ » Thu Sep 30, 2021 10:45 am

wopflyer wrote:The car in question is the No.99 "Kenefick".

"The "Kenefick" was built by Pullman in 1950 as coach No. 5446. It was rebuilt to business car No. 99 in 1963. It was officially named the "Kenefick" in 1988." ( https://www.up.com/heritage/fleet/histo ... /index.htm )

So, either it was built as a traditional Heavyweight car and then streamlined when rebuilt. Or, it was built streamlined and the heavyweight style bogies (trucks) were added when it was rebuilt. Either way, you are talking about having a new model made if you want something exact.

And like it or not, the MSTS Conversion Business Car "is" the closest we have right now. But, having the Britkits heavyweight business car repainted in the correct UP colors and lettering to match the G-Trax UP cars, would be pretty nice as an alternative until such time that somebody makes a better "full Set" of heavyweight cars, or a full set of the current UP heritage fleet.

Child objects might help to change the BritKits car, but you are talking about the whole roof being augmented. That might be possible, but it might be more realistic to just repaint the car as close as possible and pretend the roof is correct.



If anyone could fine any references for heavyweight cars, I’m pretty sure I could find someone to make something similar to the business car, or better yet maybe even a full set.
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Re: Britkits HW Passenger set UP Business Coach

Unread postby wopflyer » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:53 pm

EngineerTJ wrote:If anyone could fine any references for heavyweight cars, I’m pretty sure I could find someone to make something similar to the business car, or better yet maybe even a full set.



I assume you are meaning info such as the cars blueprints/stats? I'm not sure where to get that information myself. Turning to model railroad cars might be a idea for source material unless someone here belongs to a historical society with access to that for you. Or, instead of model railroad cars, use the BritKits cars and the freeware coaches and baggage cars from "Golden Age of Railroading" ( http://golden-age-rails.com/rwroll.html ) as references.
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