Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby Logan20131 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:46 pm

I've Built Airplanes guys okay, I just need some tips on this Project.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby artimrj » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:06 pm

Logan20131 wrote:I've Built Airplanes guys okay, I just need some tips on this Project.


Well you need to stop posting off topic in this thread is one thing. This is the FEF-3 thread not the learning how to model steam thread. People see new posts in here and expect to see something MRennie. We also have the feature of a PM, Personal Message that you can use to talk to individuals privately.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:17 pm

Logan20131 wrote:I've Built Airplanes guys okay, I just need some tips on this Project.


I suggest you start a new thread (probably in the freeware forum) where you can start asking specific questions on clearly defined areas. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to spend on a step-by-step tutorial on how to build a steam loco from scratch (as I said, I started one, but it was taking far too long). However, if you have specific questions for which there's a short answer (not something that would take pages and pages to explain), then we'll do what we can, time allowing, to answer whenever we drop in to check out the latest posts. It would also be a good idea if you explain exactly what experience you have, what 3D modelling software you use, whether you've done any of the tutorials, what you've understood and/or tried out from the dev docs, etc., just so we have a btter idea of how to pitch the answers.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby Logan20131 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:44 pm

Got it! !!*ok*!!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby Logan20131 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:11 am

hey smokebox,

Did you know that the FEF-1 and the FEF-2 or FEF-3 had different driver sizes.

FEF-2 cowcatcher/pilot
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FEF-1 76 in. drivers and 12 wheel tender
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Thanks for building the UP 4-8-4s,
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:29 am

Logan20131 wrote:hey smokebox,

Did you know that the FEF-1 and the FEF-2 or FEF-3 had different driver sizes.

FEF-2 cowcatcher/pilot
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FEF-1 76 in. drivers and 12 wheel tender
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Thanks for building the UP 4-8-4s,
Logan


Yes, the FEF-1 had 77 inch drivers. There are a lot of differences between the -1, -2 and -3. Someone once suggested I make the FEF-1 and FEF-2 after doing the -3, but it would be a lot of work, not just a bit of tweaking here and there, because of all those differences.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby Logan20131 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:31 am

I understand that kind of work. **!!bang!!**
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby ErikGorbiHamilton » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:04 am

that FEF without Smoke Protectors. Looks Alien...
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:17 am

BNOV2 wrote:that FEF without Smoke Protectors. Looks Alien...


Yes, 844 has gone through some transformations over the years ...

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:03 pm

Here's a look at what there is in the cab so far (there's obviously still a lot more work to do):

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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby ozinoz » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:00 pm

Looking amazing. **!!bow!!**

Are we going to be able to position anywhere along the rear of the footplate or is it going to be strictly right side/ left side as with the older locos? *!question!* Sometimes it is easier to see what is happening if standing in the middle looking at the back head rather than to the side...

!*cheers*!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Mar 11, 2014 8:10 pm

ozinoz wrote:Looking amazing. **!!bow!!**

Are we going to be able to position anywhere along the rear of the footplate or is it going to be strictly right side/ left side as with the older locos? *!question!* Sometimes it is easier to see what is happening if standing in the middle looking at the back head rather than to the side...

!*cheers*!


At the moment, I've got four camera positions, one for each seat, with the two rear ones given a wider field of view that takes in the entire backhead. I could add another right in the middle, between the doors.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby arizonachris » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:57 pm

mrennie wrote:Here's a look at what there is in the cab so far (there's obviously still a lot more work to do):

2014-03-12_00001.jpg


(The crowd watching the big monitor grows restless. The image of the cab finally appears, and a collective sigh is heard. The crowd starts a chant: )

"We want Rivets.
We need rivets!
How we gonna count
if we don't have RIVETS! "

!*roll-laugh*! !*roll-laugh*! (sorry, Mike, things that just kinda pop into my old brain sometimes !!jabber!! ) It does look really good. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby AdmiralLeviathan » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:01 pm

That looks really good. I've been getting used to manually firing steam engines so I'll probably be spending a lot of time in this cab.

arizonachris wrote:"We want Rivets.
We need rivets!
How we gonna count
if we don't have RIVETS! "


Just to go off on a tangent slightly, this is a real thing that exists:
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an "Analog Rivet Counting Tool" for model trains. I saw this in the most recent Model Railroader and I was surprised the fact that there was even a demand for such a tool.
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Re: Union Pacific FEF-3 4-8-4 Northern type steam locomotive, by Smokebox

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:02 pm

arizonachris wrote:
mrennie wrote:Here's a look at what there is in the cab so far (there's obviously still a lot more work to do):

2014-03-12_00001.jpg


(The crowd watching the big monitor grows restless. The image of the cab finally appears, and a collective sigh is heard. The crowd starts a chant: )

"We want Rivets.
We need rivets!
How we gonna count
if we don't have RIVETS! "

!*roll-laugh*! !*roll-laugh*! (sorry, Mike, things that just kinda pop into my old brain sometimes !!jabber!! ) It does look really good. !!*ok*!!


!*roll-laugh*!

I really need to count the rivets on the outside sometime. I'm pretty sure there are over a thousand *!lol!*

There are going to be plenty of nuts and bolts in the cab - just wait until I start on the metal sheet that covers the backhead *!!wink!!*

By the way, I hope you took a good look at the readings on [url]all[/url] the gauges. None of them are faked.
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