RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:10 pm

steamman wrote:Ok this is kind of a a dumb question, and I'm probably missing the obvious somewhere, but... How do you take on coal and water in the Connie? I've pulled up to the coaling tower and/or the water stanchion, but I can't get it to load... 'T' obviously isn't going to do it 'cause that controls the roof hatch, Ive tried a few other letters, I've clicked on the icon with the mouse. But there is no joy in Mudville. *!sad!* Just can't get it to load up. Any help greatly appreciated, thanks.


It's the usual T key. I'd already assigned T to the hatch when it came time to do the tender, and as I'd practically run out of keys by then, I decided it wouldn't do any harm to have the same key do two things. !*salute*!
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby steamman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:18 pm

Hmmm ok thanks Mike.. I'll have to try it again.. Strange I couldn't get it to work..
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby steamman » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:51 pm

Strange situation here Mike. Interactive cars.... I cant load any interactive cars (including the Connie's tender) using 'T'. Strangely enough I can unload a car however using 'Shift T'. This means I can't take on water or coal for the engine. One other thing that has me kind of puzzled. I ran a route (free roam) in which I unloaded some cars. I know steam engines were hard on water. But I only got about 27 miles and I was darned near out of water ( which is when I found I couldn't take on water). Now I ran the same route again only this time I didn't unload any cars. When I got to that same 27 mile point I was surprised to find I had a half a tenders worth of water left. Sounds nuts I know, but I'm wondering when I unload a car, I'm not also unloading the tender ? !*don-know!* I don't know if anyone else is experiencing the same thing or not. I'm wondering if you (or I) can change the letter of that engine roof hatch to something else, just to see if that solves the problem? Thanks

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:26 am

steamman wrote:Strange situation here Mike. Interactive cars.... I cant load any interactive cars (including the Connie's tender) using 'T'. Strangely enough I can unload a car however using 'Shift T'. This means I can't take on water or coal for the engine. One other thing that has me kind of puzzled. I ran a route (free roam) in which I unloaded some cars. I know steam engines were hard on water. But I only got about 27 miles and I was darned near out of water ( which is when I found I couldn't take on water). Now I ran the same route again only this time I didn't unload any cars. When I got to that same 27 mile point I was surprised to find I had a half a tenders worth of water left. Sounds nuts I know, but I'm wondering when I unload a car, I'm not also unloading the tender ? !*don-know!* I don't know if anyone else is experiencing the same thing or not. I'm wondering if you (or I) can change the letter of that engine roof hatch to something else, just to see if that solves the problem? Thanks

Jim


Hi Jim,

That is very strange indeed! I haven't seen any other reports of this problem. Have you got any other steam locos you could test it on, to see if they load/unload properly?

Are you firing manually? If so, do you make sure to turn off the water just after pushing the injector lever forward to stop the injection? (otherwise the water continues to pour out of the overflow).

I'll try making a modified controls blueprint for you this evening, changing the roof hatch key (I can pm you the file), although I don't hold out much hope that it will fix it.

One last thing to try, as always, is a clear cache (from the in-game tools menu) and also to check the integrity of the game files from the properties menu of the TS2013 game in the Steam library, just in case any files have become corrupted and need to be reacquired.

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby steamman » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:39 am

mrennie wrote:
steamman wrote:Strange situation here Mike. Interactive cars.... I cant load any interactive cars (including the Connie's tender) using 'T'. Strangely enough I can unload a car however using 'Shift T'. This means I can't take on water or coal for the engine. One other thing that has me kind of puzzled. I ran a route (free roam) in which I unloaded some cars. I know steam engines were hard on water. But I only got about 27 miles and I was darned near out of water ( which is when I found I couldn't take on water). Now I ran the same route again only this time I didn't unload any cars. When I got to that same 27 mile point I was surprised to find I had a half a tenders worth of water left. Sounds nuts I know, but I'm wondering when I unload a car, I'm not also unloading the tender ? !*don-know!* I don't know if anyone else is experiencing the same thing or not. I'm wondering if you (or I) can change the letter of that engine roof hatch to something else, just to see if that solves the problem? Thanks

Jim


Hi Jim,

That is very strange indeed! I haven't seen any other reports of this problem. Have you got any other steam locos you could test it on, to see if they load/unload properly?

Are you firing manually? If so, do you make sure to turn off the water just after pushing the injector lever forward to stop the injection? (otherwise the water continues to pour out of the overflow).

I'll try making a modified controls blueprint for you this evening, changing the roof hatch key (I can pm you the file), although I don't hold out much hope that it will fix it.

One last thing to try, as always, is a clear cache (from the in-game tools menu) and also to check the integrity of the game files from the properties menu of the TS2013 game in the Steam library, just in case any files have become corrupted and need to be reacquired.

!*cheers*!
Mike


Yep, done/did/doing all that Mike.. Now in the case of the empty tender you have me wondering if I forgot to turn off the water.. !DUH! Anyway I'm going to run it on a different route just on the outside chance... Although I have my doubts that's it, but I'll try anything once. Yes I have other steam locos, and wasn't having any problems, but I'm going to try running one again just to see if anythings changed.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby steamman » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:17 am

Well I'll be darned.. !! Ran it on a different route with different type water column and coaling tower, and it took on coal and water just fine. !*YAAA*! So, either the problem decided to clear itself up, or the Connie doesn't like the default water tank and coaling tower for some reason, or there's something screwy in the original route. I'm going to do some more fiddling around and see what happens. If I have to I'll go into the editor in the original route and change out the water and coal, no biggie. Either way I'm glad it works, 'cause really I like running this engine. I like anything where the valves, switches, bells, whistles actually simulate doing something rather than just sitting there and looking pretty.. Keeps ya busy, keeps ya thinkin'. *!!wink!!*
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby bpetit » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:00 am

PS anyone who is having trouble with auto fireman put on the dampers all the way.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby B-24_LIBERATOR » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:44 am

bpetit wrote:PS anyone who is having trouble with auto fireman put on the dampers all the way.


Yes, also can't seem to make the lubricator work. Need some help *!rolleyes!*
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:48 pm

bpetit wrote:PS anyone who is having trouble with auto fireman put on the dampers all the way.


I must try this!

If with this the auto-fireman is able to stoke the fire properly, then if you run the HUD version with the auto-fireman enabled and the damper fully open, she'll probably go like a rocket!
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:51 pm

B-24_LIBERATOR wrote:
bpetit wrote:PS anyone who is having trouble with auto fireman put on the dampers all the way.


Yes, also can't seem to make the lubricator work. Need some help *!rolleyes!*


There are three controls you have to move before the lubricator will start. First the steam throttle, which is the smaller of the three red valves on the top left of the cab (the other two, larger, ones are the blower and exhaust injector steam throttles). Then open the brass valve at the top of the lubricator (the middle one isn't animated), and finally move the bottom lever upwards, to the "all open" position. After a few seconds, you'll see the oil droplets rising in the sight windows.

My "tutorial no. 1" on YouTube shows this :D

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:54 pm

steamman wrote:Well I'll be darned.. !! Ran it on a different route with different type water column and coaling tower, and it took on coal and water just fine. !*YAAA*! So, either the problem decided to clear itself up, or the Connie doesn't like the default water tank and coaling tower for some reason, or there's something screwy in the original route. I'm going to do some more fiddling around and see what happens. If I have to I'll go into the editor in the original route and change out the water and coal, no biggie. Either way I'm glad it works, 'cause really I like running this engine. I like anything where the valves, switches, bells, whistles actually simulate doing something rather than just sitting there and looking pretty.. Keeps ya busy, keeps ya thinkin'. *!!wink!!*


I'm not sure what "default" is nowadays *!lol!* Anyway, it works fine with the towers on the Horseshoe Curve, if you want to try it out there.

I'm really glad you're enjoying running the Consolidation. I'm glad it was worth all the effort it took to get all those finnicky knobs and levers to do things!

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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby B-24_LIBERATOR » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:57 pm

mrennie wrote:My "tutorial no. 1" on YouTube shows this :D



Ok I see what I was doing wrong with the lubricator, for some reason I thought the lever pointing down was in the "on" position.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby jpetersjr » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:00 pm

Today I bought the Consolidation and am enjoying it.

Took a bit to figure out, but had a nice run with it up the Cajon Pass.
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby mrennie » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:27 pm

jpetersjr wrote:Today I bought the Consolidation and am enjoying it.

Took a bit to figure out, but had a nice run with it up the Cajon Pass.


Thanks, I'm glad you're enjoying it :D
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Re: RSC 2-8-0 CONSOLIDATION

Unread postby selkirkfan » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:27 pm

Hi Mike
Your engine is a fantastic addition to RW 2013.You did great work on it. I can appreciate what it takes to make an engine of that quality.I do have one small problem,similar to steamman.I cannot get the tender to take on water.I can coal it up but no water. All my other tenders take on coal and water,no problem.I have done the usual,deleting the blueprint.pak,tried it in different routes but to no avail.both the coal tower and water tower are non default items.The default tenders will work ok,taking on both coal and water.
One other thing,is there any chance of getting it named to CPR.(Canadian Pacific Railway)
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