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Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:49 pm
by MJBrinegar
Anyone else get a pretty big hit in FPS with head light flares on especially when passing another engine?

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:08 pm
by BNSF650
i am still trying to figure out how to add it to all the other locos.

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Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:30 pm
by JohnTrainHead
MJBrinegar wrote:Anyone else get a pretty big hit in FPS with head light flares on especially when passing another engine?


Same here. It kills the FPS just like the cab and step lights on player or AI trains.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:33 pm
by MJBrinegar
Probably will have to wait for all the DLC to be updated if that will ever happen. I was using the ones that come with Donner Pass.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:02 pm
by Ericmopar
Yeah me too.
On Donner, it makes my FPS drop from 70ish most of the time to below 60fps. Some people wouldn't care, but I like using V-Sync.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:26 pm
by imphantum
Ericmopar wrote:Yeah me too.
On Donner, it makes my FPS drop from 70ish most of the time to below 60fps. Some people wouldn't care, but I like using V-Sync.

70 to 60? My computer struggles to even run the sim with TSX on !*roll-laugh*!

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:48 am
by Ericmopar
imphantum wrote:
Ericmopar wrote:Yeah me too.
On Donner, it makes my FPS drop from 70ish most of the time to below 60fps. Some people wouldn't care, but I like using V-Sync.

70 to 60? My computer struggles to even run the sim with TSX on !*roll-laugh*!


Yeah... well... I like to use V-Sync and my monitor GPU combo gets terrible low FPS screen tearing. So unless I can maintain 60+ FPS I get boned graphics.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:54 am
by MJBrinegar
Looks like there are lights on even if you have them off maybe that is the problem? This happens with more than one unit hooked up.

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Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:31 am
by mrennie
MJBrinegar wrote:Probably will have to wait for all the DLC to be updated if that will ever happen. I was using the ones that come with Donner Pass.


I saw a comment from Matt P, on RSC's facebook page, saying that existing DLC will not be updated to have lens flare.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:39 am
by _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha
Well, RSC never has updated older assets, unless they were really broken.

How is the effect achieved in the first place? Some optical illusion rendered in real time by a DX call? Given it has apparently such impact on performance it is really worth it? In the rain, in the snow, at night? It seems to be applied only to the headlights, not to the ditchlights.

I don't like the soft fuzzy halo that surrounds the whole headlight for 3-4 feet diameter. That kind of effect is only possible in dry and freezing conditions when there are those tiny ice needles in the air.

To what other routes has the effect been applied? SP Donner Pass pales in comparison to the high-speed routes that are the default UK and Euro choices in TS2014 for new customers.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:53 am
by mrennie
_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha wrote:Well, RSC never has updated older assets, unless they were really broken.

How is the effect achieved in the first place? Some optical illusion rendered in real time by a DX call? Given it has apparently such impact on performance it is really worth it? In the rain, in the snow, at night? It seems to be applied only to the headlights, not to the ditchlights.

I don't like the soft fuzzy halo that surrounds the whole headlight for 3-4 feet diameter. That kind of effect is only possible in dry and freezing conditions when there are those tiny ice needles in the air.

To what other routes has the effect been applied? SP Donner Pass pales in comparison to the high-speed routes that are the default UK and Euro choices in TS2014 for new customers.


I've been trying out various locos and routes and have yet to even see the effect. Which ones have it?

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:30 am
by _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha
I have only checked Donner Pass' GP9 and SD40T-2's.
It is supposed to be on UK's Kent High Speed as well, but I already had that route before TS2014.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:33 am
by johnmckenzie
It doesn't look natural - I don't particularly like it.

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:16 pm
by OlPaint
I have corrected a good many old Locomotive assets missing lighting issues by applying "Doc" Machinist's Lighting Enhancement Packs (LEP) and by following PapaXpress's guidance. I personally have gleaned valuable information as to how to apply "Shining" Headlights and Cab and Instrument illumination and Number Board Lighting using Child Objects in the .BIN blueprints file for a specific asset.

I assume that the new Head Light Flare effect uses a Child Object in a similar technique. I hope to understand it with further study. I appears that the effect is a representation of a translucent camera lens flare in 3D space that is placed in front of the actual glowing headlight lamp. Moving your vantage from side to side gives the appearance that the flare intensifies when looking straight into it.

OlPaint

Re: Head light flare

Unread postPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:14 pm
by MJBrinegar
mrennie wrote:
MJBrinegar wrote:Probably will have to wait for all the DLC to be updated if that will ever happen. I was using the ones that come with Donner Pass.


I saw a comment from Matt P, on RSC's facebook page, saying that existing DLC will not be updated to have lens flare.



That kind of makes it a pointless feature if there not going to update.