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Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:33 am

Say is this a good enough Laptop to run TS2013 RW3,I plan to get a new laptop sometime soon I hope.Will the loading be faster and also I noticed when I close RW3 takes a few mins for my desktop to load. I noticed when I click the web page I was on takes a min to load set tge screen.
Dell Inspiron 17R Laptop, Intel® Core™ i7-3612QM 2.10GHz
17. inch screen 8gb 1.0tb hd

I do know that I need to install steam again,But all I do is put in my username,password will RW3 start downloading & installing.After I log into steam on my new Laptop?
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby The_Garbear » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:32 pm

That laptop should have no trouble running Railworks.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:34 pm

Thanks for the Reply will it help the problems I had mentioned in my post?Will the loading be faster and also I noticed when I close RW3 takes a few mins for my desktop to load. I noticed when I click the web page I was on takes a min to load set the screen.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby Haystack » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:24 pm

Is there ant reason you want a laptop? You'll be able to run RW3, but for the price you would be better off building a desktop and get way better performance. **!!2cents!!**

Based on this review of the 630M in the 17R, don't expect to run everything on ultra without getting a slideshow.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:13 pm

Yes, I also recommend getting a desktop computer instead. Unless getting that laptop is absolutely essential for this and your other computing needs/purposes.

The biggest problem with powerful laptops is heat, more specifially heat buildup inside the case and heat dissipation/ventilation to keep your laptop cool and extend its life, especially that of its harddrive.
You will be running scenarios in Railworks, or build routes or create assets for hours on end, meaning the laptop's CPU and GPU will be running at medium to high power most of the time.
Having a heavy and bulky 17" laptop in your lap with its underside getting like 50C/100F in places isn't really comfortable. Ventilation slots easily get blocked when you put the laptop down on clothes or couch cushions.
Putting it on a cooling stand on a desk or table will help a bit, but the laptop will still get hot and its fans will continue to whirr. Depending on make and model, they are/will get noisy or blow hot air out in the wrong place.

Personally, I hate those bright but high glare reflecting screens of today's laptops. The ergonomics of having a good quality monitor at eye level and a separate keyboard in front of you are something you'll have to judge for yourself. Prolongued working on laptops often leads to neck pains and uncomfortable eye strain/fatigue.

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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:31 pm

I always keep a small fan on the side of my Laptop it blows cool air underneath.My Laptop I also have my Laptop setting up on 2 2x4's its about 5 inches. High from my desk I sit at.SO all is ok with the air getting to my Laptop.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:27 pm

UPSD70ACe wrote:Say is this a good enough Laptop to run TS2013 RW3,I plan to get a new laptop sometime soon I hope.Will the loading be faster and also I noticed when I close RW3 takes a few mins for my desktop to load. I noticed when I click the web page I was on takes a min to load set tge screen.
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I do know that I need to install steam again,But all I do is put in my username,password will RW3 start downloading & installing.After I log into steam on my new Laptop?


UPSD70ACe wrote:Thanks for the Reply will it help the problems I had mentioned in my post?Will the loading be faster and also I noticed when I close RW3 takes a few mins for my desktop to load. I noticed when I click the web page I was on takes a min to load set the screen.


Technically, your laptop of choice exceeds the TS2013 specifications by a margin. Unfortunately, TS2013 hardly makes full use of available hardware resources as both its simulation and rendering engines are quite old by now. Wether you will be satisfied by its performance playing TS2013 I cannot judge.

Another poster said its main botleneck will be the GPU. GPU's are more complex than CPU's nowadays and consume as much or more power. 95% of that power will need to be dissipated as heat.
Laptop GPU's and harddrives are usually of lesser performance compared to their desktop equivalents. Laptop GPU's and Mobile CPU's are usually more power efficient however but tend to throttle up and down.

Most users with lots of routes, asset packs and repaints experience slow loading and intermittent stuttering while playing.
Only installing a SSD will give you noticeable faster loading of TS2013 and less stuttering. At a price of course, for SSD's are expensive, much smaller of capacity and break down without advance S.M.A.R.T. warnings. Always make regular backups when using SSD's is my advice.

When installing Steam and logging in, any game you'll want to play will be downloaded automatically on first attempt.
TS2013 with all of the DLC you've bought should be no exception but will take a while. To speed things up, you could try to copy your steamapps/common folder to your new computer after you've installed Steam. That way only a verify game command should sort things out. Most games still need to write their own settings into the registry and reacquire additional parts that go somewhere outside the Steam folder.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Where do I buy this SSD thing from?What do you mean my it exceeds TS2013.Please explain more on that I am a lil confused on that due to me having.A learning disability. *!lol!* *!embar*!
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby _o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:56 pm

UPSD70ACe wrote:Where do I buy this SSD thing from?What do you mean my it exceeds TS2013.Please explain more on that I am a lil confused on that due to me having.A learning disability. *!lol!* *!embar*!


First the laptop: its specifications are better than the requirements of Train Simulator (TS2013).
So it should be powerful enough to play the game, but not at the highest settings in some of the more demanding routes.
The highest settings of realism and grahpics quality require a more powerful Graphics Processing Unit (GPU). Powerful GPU's are better suited to a desktop computer than a laptop due to the heat they generate. Your laptop of choice will manage, but the game won't play fluid and smooth when there is too much going on at once, like many trains moving, lots of lights and many buildings, trees and moving people, even when they are not visible on the screen.

SSD is short for Solid State Drive, a modern mass storage device that uses no moving parts but relies entirely on memory chips.
Classic harddrives have rotating platters and movable pickups inside, much like an old grammophone with its records and arm.
A SSD is fast because it has no moving parts, the memory can be accessed at random without any delay. It is also expensive and small because those memory chips are still quite expensive by themselves.

If you buy your computer new from a quality supplier, I believe you had Dell in mind, you can have it custom built. Ask for a price list and quote and have a knowledgeable relative, friend or teacher advice you. If you buy your computer used, you'll have to arrange with the vendor beforehand for a return, in case Train Simulator 2013 doesn't play to your liking. Again, have a trustworthy person accompany you to help making the deal.

Like the other poster said, your laptop of choice is good enough to play the game.
Our community here at Railworks America will also be glad to help you with any further question.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby arizonachris » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:12 pm

I would save up your money for your new PC or laptop. That i7 at 2.1Ghz is holding you back, and the onboard video is really not that good. You say you have to wait for the Internet pages to load? This could be slow Internet service, or it could be a problem in the laptop. Railworks is more CPU dependent than video card dependent.

Kanawha pretty much said it all. SSD's are still expensive, so like I said, save that cash for your new PC/ laptop. Heck, do a reinstall of Windows on that laptop you already have then have someone, a friend maybe, help you and build a nice desktop PC. You can have the laptop for away from home Internet, and a full blown gaming PC at home. That's what I do. I have a little Dell laptop I take around town, and have a really nice PC for my games. Best of both worlds. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:28 pm

Okay,When you close out of TS213 and your PC goes back to it's desktop screen.I have to wait for a minute or 2 after TS2013 closes.Cause my laptop is still loading after I have closes out of TS2013.Then after a minute or 2 I can use my internet etc I guess cause TS2013.Is so powerful the laptop has to load after closing TS2013.Hope you unedstand what I am saying my net is fine no problems here.
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby arizonachris » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:26 pm

I am thinking, you have several problems. First, a slow processor. 2.1 is not good in these days. You may also want to increase the system memory (RAM) If this is Windows 7, used the CD that came with the laptop and do a "repair".

TS2013 only does a small check on the Internet when you start the game. Any other delay, in start up or shut down, is a problem with Windows. Railworks can take a minute or more to start for me, but when I shut it off, I get back to my desktop in a few seconds.

Can you afford to take your laptop to a tech and have it looked over for problems? You may just have to shut off programs that are running in the back ground, behind Windows. Like anti virus scanner, maybe?
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Re: Is This Enough To Run RW3

Unread postby UPSD70ACe » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:13 pm

I have Norton I leave that on cause of Viruses & etc that are out there today.What other programs should I not have running while TS2013 is running?I have XP
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