Re:DRGW F9 black and Yellow

[buzz456]

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Should be up this weekend in the library.

[ET44C4]

You got them things looking sharp.

[katyusha454]

NIce! This'll go perfectly with the GP9 and SD9.

[ZekTheKid]

I might attempt to use the Kuju DRGW F7 textures and put them on the F9 or FP7 to go along with these. We'll see.

On the other hand, neat repaints Buzz! I'll definitely be picking up Solder Summit when time and money permit!

[buzz456]

I might attempt to use the Kuju DRGW F7 textures and put them on the F9 or FP7 to go along with these. We'll see.

On the other hand, neat repaints Buzz! I'll definitely be picking up Solder Summit when time and money permit!

The F9 is already done in the traditional DRGW livery. It's in this same pack. EMDFP7Pack01. It is the default F9.

[GERUNIMO625]

Very striking Buzz, great work!!!

[ZekTheKid]

I might attempt to use the Kuju DRGW F7 textures and put them on the F9 or FP7 to go along with these. We'll see.

On the other hand, neat repaints Buzz! I'll definitely be picking up Solder Summit when time and money permit!

The F9 is already done in the traditional DRGW livery. It's in this same pack. EMDFP7Pack01. It is the default F9.

I though it was different. At least I know there's the traditional livery in there.

[buzz456]

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This is the default F9 in the pack.

[ZekTheKid]

This is the default F9 in the pack.

I found out for myself when I went to do a comparison. F9 is the brighter yellow, Kuju DRGW F7 is the darker yellow:

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So apparently the Kuju F7's paint is slightly different from the F9 in the FP7Pack01.

[buzz456]

Yeah, stripes are all different also. The one in the FP Pack is billed as a Zephyr paint job. Now you're going to make me go history hunting.

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

Don't know the RAL colour number of that DRGW yellow, and the colour might have changed during the period it was being used.
RAL is perhaps only used in Europe?

This is D&RGW Aspen Gold:

(from: https://www.factorydirecttrains.com/true-colorrailroadpaint845flatdandrgwaspengold.aspx
Paint chips don't necessarily render the same on a model or computer screen.
Some debate and useful links here: http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/13/t/37455.aspx
Unfortunately www.drgw.org and www.coloradorailfan.com websites seem out of order.

[buzz456]

This color is very close to the color posted on Marc's page and also the gold used on the F9. To the eye there is little or no difference to me

[buzz456]

Here's a really great page with tons of information. http://utahrails.net/drgw/rg-diesel-paint-schemes.php

"Color Notes

1. Two shades of yellow are referenced below. The first color, usually known as Ochre yellow, was first used in 1941 on the first 15 yard switchers, and in 1942 on other units. It was a lacquer paint with the trade name of Dulux Gold, similar in color tones to today's Dijon-brand mustard. This color was often used to simulate gold leaf. This color had the trade name of "Dulux Gold," and should not be confused with the later paint that used the trade name "Dulux Imitation Gold," which D&RGW began using in 1946.

2. The second yellow color, first used in 1946, was the result of the chnage from lacquer paint to enamel paint. The later yellow color had the trade name of Duco Imitation Gold (DuPont color 246-54015). It was a lighter and fairly bright yellow, compared to the earlier ochre yellow, which had darker tones. In later years, the newer yellow faded to a creamy yellow color.

3. D&RGW's famous Aspen Gold, also known as Grande Gold, had the formal name of Duco Orange (Du Pont color number 254-6479; EMD color number 8173994). Aspen Gold was adopted for freight equipment and cabooses in early 1956. It was first used on the Prospector passenger equipment as early as 1950, and on locomotives as part of the four black stripe scheme in 1951. The color first came into use in 1949 as the Aspen Leaf scheme on the noses of the Alco PA passenger cab units, and on the narrow gauge C-16 2-8-0 268.

4. Beginning in the mid 1920s, DuPont produced two types of paint; Duco lacquer and Dulux enamel. Duco was a lacquer formula dating from 1923. It held its gloss better over time and stood up to regular washing better, and being a lacquer, took less time to dry. Duco was also more expensive. Dulux was an enamel formula introduced in 1926. It took longer to dry (usually overnight), but was less expensive. Dulux enamel was more resilient and resistant to chipping, and was a better choice for locomotive and car running gear. Many railroads, including D&RGW, specified Duco lacquer for use on the carbodies of their diesel locomotives, but continued to specify Dulux enamel for use on locomotive running gear. (Read more about DuPont Dulux and Duco paint)

5. Aluminum paint color, sometimes known as bright aluminum, was used to simulate polished stainless steel. Depending on the needed durability, both Dulux Aluminum and Duco Aluminum were used."

[_o_OOOO_oo-Kanawha]

Great resource on Denver & Rio Grande Western now the other sites are down.

Here is a still from a movie:


Old movie reels are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to colour reproduction, but the black carbody looks a nice dark chocolate colour that goes well with the cream striping.
Pure RGB (0,0,0) black is usually way too dark and 'featureless', and black paints bleach into murky very dark greenish brown over time under sun and shine, sleet and rain.