Cimmaron & Pacific Installation?

[slick204]

I am looking into installing this route but one of the required items is currently unavailable. This is the Phorum Peninsula route. I read on the steam forums that it was pulled from the DLC. I know a few people here have this route; do you have the Phorum Peninsula route or did you find an alternative?

Any help would be appreciated!

[buzz456]

I would try it and see what happens. If it doesn't run do Bob Latimers tutorial. I am not sure what's in my assest folder but I think that will get it to run. If not holler back here.

[slick204]

I'll give it a try. I'm downloading the last file from UK Trainsim right now. It' incredibly slow!
Other than Phorum Peninsula, I can't find "UKTrainsim Freeware Pack Terrain Textures". I didn't find it in the file section here but found some textures at the UK Trainsim site but the title didn't match.

I've done lots of reading and found out that Gary is still active around here. The screenshots of the route look great! Like someone else here said, it reminds me of my trip to Philmont when I was a kid.

I also found that B-24 Liberator also did some upgrading of the route but it was never uploaded.

[gwgardner]

I'm still around. Piddling with upgrades to the route, but not intensively. I wasn't aware that Phorum Penninsula is no longer available. Bummer.

Phorum Penninsula assets are used extensively in the route, everything from trackside items to flora, and many structures. The C&P may run without Phorum Penninsula, but you will find many unusual sights - such as engine service sheds not there, or the sawmill, or some bridges, etc. And the narrow gauge track.

The textures pack was available here, I could swear. I'll look for it. There was a website where all the free packages were available too. Dang, without those textures, the route is going to look weird.

I worked at Philmont for four summers in the early 70s , so that was where I got my interest in the area. Couple of years ago I found a guy in Cimarron who was writing a book on the area, and he had tons of photos and documents on the railroads around there.

[gwgardner]

the texture pack is available several places, including here:

http://www.uktrainsim.com/FreewarePacks/

[slick204]

Gary, thanks for the info. That site links back to UKTrainsim. Their download rate (without upgrading) is incredibly slow. It will probably take all day to get so I'll try tomorrow.
Dang, I wish I could get the PP.

I was at Philmont in '72. It was a great time.

[PapaXpress]

At one time we did have our own copy of the UKTS texture pack here. I wonder what happened to it.

[buzz456]

I have it here. I'll get it uploaded to the library but in the meantime I'll post a link as soon as it uploads to SugarSync.

[buzz456]

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6076927_62669624_829502

Here ya go.

[gwgardner]

re Phorum Penninsula, Project Platform, I sent off an email to support last night and just got this reply:

I'm afraid there is no way of purchasing Phorum Peninsula at the moment. We do apologise for the withdrawal of said DLC from sales but along with other DLC there are adjustments being made to them. I can not currently give an exact date when/if they will be re-uploaded but will make it known via our usual media outlets (Facebook page, STEAM store etc.)

The C&P will look good without Phorum Penninsula, I think. At least in the interim. One could quickly lay down track on the empty narrow gauge trackbed with track from the Silverton and Durango, just to keep up appearances. Someday I was going to get around to extending the narrow gauge track, using that Silverton and Durango asset. And any missing structures could be replaced. Probably trackside items and foliage will never be noticed as missing.

[gwgardner]

Gary, thanks for the info. That site links back to UKTrainsim. Their download rate (without upgrading) is incredibly slow. It will probably take all day to get so I'll try tomorrow.
Dang, I wish I could get the PP.

I was at Philmont in '72. It was a great time.

Did you make it up to the northern part of Philmont? I remember hiking in North Ponil Canyon up to Indian Writings one time, and seeing the old roadbed to the lumbering areas. Just a few ties and spikes here and there. According to the documents there were something like 56 bridges up the 15 miles of that stretch of track, many of which often washed out after a storm. Surprisingly, turns out that it was standard gauge. So my intention of placing narrow gauge there is not historically accurate. Also surprisingly, the lumbering done there was almost completely to produce railroad ties, and they didn't haul the timber down the canyon on flats, but in boxcars, saying that cutting the logs to the proper length for ties was more economical before hauling to the mill.

Of course if you did hike the Ponil canyons, you would have noticed how it was stripped. In the '70s the new growth had not yet masked the scars - stumps and scrap timber everywhere.

When hiking in one of the side canyons I once came across the carcass of an old steam crawler - it was huge, like a mighty tractor but with a big boiler - they used it to haul logs to the track.

Also of note, the whole enterprise - building the RR, lumbering, and then stripping the trackbed for scrap - was done in 10 years. This was the Cimarron and Northwestern RR. The mainline RR through Cimarron Canyon was a different story altogether.

[slick204]

Buzz, thanks for putting up that file. I downloaded it in less than a minute. I still had 8 hours to go on the download from UKTrainsim!

Gary, I read through the pdf on the route last night. It was very informative and interesting. I haven't been down that way in a long time as I can't seem to get past southwestern Colorado.
I'll try installing the route tonight and see how it goes. I think I now have all the pieces available. I do have the D&S but I've never messed with the route editor. Sounds like it may be time to learn. I just think it would be a great route to run the new Consolidated engine.

I don't remember our itenerary at Philmont. I do remember hiking up Mount Baldy! It sounds like an interesting place to roam around. I spend a week every year up in the Colorado high country and I take my Colorado Railroad atlas with me to locate old lines. Last year I was able to locate and follow the grade of the old line up Monarch Pass because I had driven it in RW the week before!

Anyway, thanks for the information and help.

[slick204]

Well, I got the route installed. And a beautiful route it is! I've been having loads of fun exploring. I ran the included free roam scenario with the 4-4-0 and took it up to Baldy Town. That is one steep climb! 4 to 6 % all the way up. I then created my own free roam with the Consolidated loco that came with the Big Boy and the C&P cars from Michael Stephan. I ran that from Ute Park, to Eagle's Nest and up to Elizabethtown. What a pretty run. I was using manual fireman too. Great fun. I loaded up the ore hoppers at the hydraulic mining site and have it saved for a run back down.

Thanks for making this great route Gary.

I need to get Mike's new Connie to run here but promised myself I wouldn't until I finished a scenario I'm in the middle of. I just can't seem to get back to it though...

[gwgardner]

Great to hear you are enjoying the route, notwithstanding the missing assets. I guess the missing Phorum Penninsula hasn't been a major bother?

[slick204]

No, not a bother at all. I see a few milk bottles and the narrow gauge track is absent. Sometime I'll get around to running RWTools to see what's missing but for now I'm having too much fun!