SBHH is a four letter word! (A call for help)

[rhovak]

Hi everyone
I'm have troubles yet again.... I began having SBHH problems on the last route I was building so I began building a much smaller route using less assets. Now i'm getting that blasted SBHH again.

The bones of the problem:
TS2013 crashes with the friendly "Something bad has happened" message any way and every time that I try to edit my route or create/edit scenarios. (Existing scenarios work fine).

My system:
Intel i5 3.30GHz
8GB Ram
Win7 64-bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560

What I've tried:
1. Turning off anti-virus
2. Verifying game files
3. Deleted all InitialSave files from my scenarios.
4. bought more RAM
5. Deleting all scenarios
6. Checked my route using RWTools (RWTools always worked fine and still does on other routes but for this route during the scenery check, it gives me "error #5 Invalide procedure call or argument" then I have to click ok a couple of hundred times before it generates a list that shows the file path to ...\railworks\assets\\\bin on nearly every tile).
7. Used Disc's Replacer to swap out all scenery object to one default tree.
8. Tried removing some useless things from the RouteProperties.xml file. (Strange how I can remove the 4 line that refer to the Big Boy and it will cause the game to not even load... even after deleting all scenarios. Finicky.)
9. The last time that I had this problem(with my previous route), I wrote to RSC stating my problem as I am now... the response (paraphrased): Thanks for your suggestion. I'm not wasting my time with them this time... besides, you all have been way more helpful than RSC when it comes to anything regarding TS2013.
10. Deleting all files and re-installing TS2013 and route (This worked long enough to make 2 new simple free roam scenarios before returning to the norm of dishing out SBHHs).
11. Played World of Tanks for a few weeks to cool down (A free game that works great. I've now started spending money there for more garage space and to paint my tanks and other extras because It's fun and works. and don't feel dumb after for doing it.... but I digress).
12. Packaged and re-installed my route

Next Steps (?):
1. Ask for help
2. ???
3. Learn some decent programming, decompile...

I'm trying really hard to stay positive but for me, building routes is what is fun. It's really frustrating to get a route to a point after many hours and then somewhere, something messes up and renders it unfix-able. Spending hours and hours trying to get it working again is no fun either. I don't believe that I should have to backup my route every 5 minutes to compensate for weakness in their programming. I paid them good money and bought tons of DLC (some purely for the assets)... I feel like a fool... a second time now (Shame on me I guess). A paid product shouldn't be so problematic, IMHO.

Anyway, in case it's not clear, I don't have a specific question but am looking for some hints or suggestions that will either fix my problem or at least point me in a direction that may eventually lead me to a fix. I'm dying to one day share a finished route!

Thanking you all in advance...
Rhovak (the first, the original)

[buzz456]

My only suggestion is the dull but true one of back up back up back up. Then you can always go back to the last one that worked and proceed on from there. It's always one of the last things you did that screwed things up. That way you don't think have to start over. Two steps forward one back.
Error messages in rwtools write to Mike Simpson. He's very responsive.

[rhovak]

Truer words were never spoke 'round here Buzz. However I'm kinda crazy... even if I have troubles, the game is kind of this fantastic and addictive house of cards. I'm seriously determined and will poke and pick and search for a fix if I must. ...and I believe I've narrowed it down to my base route template... or whatever it's called. I know I've read a post somewhere on exactly how to proceed to change it. I'll look right after this... What I did until now was save and remove my assets folder then verify the game through stream. Then I put back my assets... 1/2 of them... tested good... another 1/4... good... and so on. Pretty basic stuff.
...and so I'm going to get to searching for that post.

[BlueLight]

Lately the dreaded SBHH is almost an hourly occurance, at least it seems that way to me. While working on scenarios for Bill
Putman's BSB-Mojave route, I continuely run into this problem when I try to make changes to a timetable. Or, when I try to position
train on a particular track. Everytime it kicks the program my frustration level increases expontentaly, causing the pulling of what few
hairs I have left on my head . I will remind the community that this is a programing flaw that has plauged us since day one.
It is an issue that RSC will never fully address as it will require the expendure of time and most importanly money to thourghly delve
into the source code. That being said, with a great whaling and gnashing of teeth we will push on. We will bang our heads agianst the wall and continue to produce
great content for this simulation.

[davedingler]

"I'm have troubles yet again.... I began having SBHH problems on the last route I was building so I began building a much smaller route using less assets. Now i'm getting that blasted SBHH again. "

I know how you feel. I was having the same problem with my route, a rather large undertaking, and got the dreaded SBHH sign. Backing up the route didn't seem to work for me, as the warning came up and the route was replaced with the back-uo, the same thing would happen. A computer hardware upgrade seemed to solve this problem, but your system looks to be adaquate.

After starting over for the 3rd or 4th time, the last worked fine until earlier this week, when I was trying something with RW-Tools and saved my changes. Tried to start RW to load my route and nothing would load. Just a black screen. CAD revealed a error window that says "Error: Unknown version of serialized binary file. File C:\build\corerelease\code\libs\foundation\APicore/cfx exception.h" For the life of me, I cannot find that file.

I have renamed the railroads file and verified the cache files to DL the complete RW. I have reloaded the routes that I had backed up, but loading the route from the editor I see some of the scenery that I had added, none of the tracks or can't get the decals to show up in the flyout. I'm debating in my head to start new again, reload the RWDecals, or give up completely!

Dave