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Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:19 pm

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Hello! Here is what I see through all Windows Inside the cab of almost all GP9 engines from RSC GP9 Pack01. Is there any thing I can do to fix that issue? I would like to know the reason of that. No problem outside of course, just Inside view through Windows.I would appreciate help !!*ok*!!
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby AmericanSteam » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:45 pm

I ran 8 GP9s from the pack and all is normal. Maybe a reinstall or heaven forbid a file verify? Do you have an older backup of the GP9pack01 file?
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:27 pm

It looks like the "wiperpairs" problem to me. Occurs in very old models (pre-TS2012 I believe) that have not been updated since

Use RW_Tools to open the loco .bin file (for each version) and search for "wiperpairs" (one word without the quotes).

If you find nothing, or only an "empty" tag, insert as follows, immediately after the tag <cControlContainerBlueprint>:

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<WiperPairs>
     <cControlContainerBlueprint-cWiperPair d:id="xxx"/>
</WiperPairs>


(it can read excatly like that, no need to put any specific ID in, just the xxx's is fine)

Note that this will fix your view from inside the cab, but does NOT provide you with rain being wiped from the windshield if it's raining. That is a significantly more complex process involving creating textures etc.
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:59 pm

Thanks I try it and let you know ;)
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:21 am

Hello ChrisOnline, here what's happen: the vision is correct through the front and side windows but not through the two rear ones. Also, rain drops appear but the wipers don't remove them :D Well! It's a good start for fixing that issue! Any more tips welcome!
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:54 am

jtousign wrote:Hello ChrisOnline, here what's happen: the vision is correct through the front and side windows but not through the two rear ones. Also, rain drops appear but the wipers don't remove them :D Well! It's a good start for fixing that issue! Any more tips welcome!


Did you read my last sentence?? The original RSC version pre-dated rain effects on the windows. Are you seeing rain on the windows at all, or it just isn't clearing?

Which version of the GP9 are you using here? I am guessing the original RSC model in the RSC/GP9Pack01 folder? But it should have been updated (with the fix to the view glitch, not rain effects). But there are other versions of the same model in Donner Pass and Soldier Summit, as well as at least two VNHRR versions (a different build, with the VNHRR and the B&O Kingswood Route). Most are later models than the early RSC one, either way they should all have been updated at some time, so not sure why you have the issue.

Sorry, as mine all work, I can't replicate your problem of the fix not working on the view from the rear windows. But I assume it is because the front and rear windows are in the same cab and the code would need expanding and tweaking. I just know the standard fix which has not failed me before.
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:35 am

Hi! Of course I have read your last sentence and It just isn't clearing water on the window so after a while i can't see Nothing but full of rain drops, wipers wiping for nothing. As a brief history my TS crashed and I had to uninstall and reinstall TS with all the lost works and everything going with that mess. Since the reinstall I load all my Rolling stock and locos back one by one and now I'm there, GP9 packs. The original units in the RSC GP9 pack are working fine but all new repaints from that pack have this problem. All others GP9's but RSC pack are OK. Thanks for your help!
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:05 am

If the originals in the pack are working fine, then clone those loco .bin files and edit them to reflect the changes for the reskins. That would normally be Display Name, and the path for the .Geo file, maybe the path for numbering, and maybe child objects added - depends on the reskin, but checking through it and searching with (RW_Tools) for some keyword that will identify the reskin changes (e.g. the folder name) will help identify if there is anything else (which is not likely)

The point being, the inner workings of the file will now be the same as your default versions and everything should work fine
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:06 pm

I've tried to change the loco .BIN file by the original, then all Windows are working fine including wipers doing the job but the loco lost his new resquin by the original one :-) If I could just change the new texture only… Thanks ChrisOnline !!*ok*!!
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:50 am

That's because you haven't changed the path of the .Geo file, in the loco .bin file, to reflect the new folder that the reskin is in - as it is still pointing to the folder (and livery) of the one that you cloned it from.

If you want to send me the .bin file that you have edited so far, I will correct it for you to get it working (e.g. link to your dropbox or whatever you have, or email me with the file (chris@chrisonline.net)
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby jtousign » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:51 am

Hello Chris, I just sent you the edited file as attached for the faulty loco CP 8825 and the original one of the same loco. The CN .bin file is working fine. Many thanks for your help!!!
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Re: Bug inside the the cab!

Unread postby ChrisOnline » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:05 pm

Received, and returned! Hope it's all good :)

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