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Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:27 am

I have a new, faster computer, and for some reason the game crashes at a certain point on Horseshoe Curve. It stutters a bit when loading scenery, and I am used to that, but eventually it freezes and game crashes. I was running the game at max settings when it happened at first, so I backed off the settings to ones I used on my old computer and it still crashes. The scenario I was running was a default career scenario called "people power", and the game crash happens when I am 8 miles from the Cresson platform. So far this is the only route where this happens. Here are my system specs.

Windows 10 Home (x64) Version 1803 (build 17134.112)
Processor-3.70 gigahertz Intel Core i7-8700K
384 kilobyte primary memory cache
1536 kilobyte secondary memory cache
12288 kilobyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (6 total)
Hyper-threaded (12 total)

16 gig ram

Motherboard-Board: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME Z370-P Rev X.0x
Serial Number: 171013267900050
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
UEFI: American Megatrends Inc. 0417 10/20/2017

Graphics Card-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 4 gig ram.

I'd think having this would be more than enough to run that route at least, without a crash.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:35 am

Your computer certainly doesn't look to be the problem. You didn't say whether you transferred your files over from your old computer or did a fresh D/L but I suspect something is borked in the scenario. Have you tried a QD or a free roam to see if it's the spot causing the crash (which would indicate something wrong with the route) or if it's the scenario that is causing the crash?
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:56 am

buzz456 wrote:Your computer certainly doesn't look to be the problem. You didn't say whether you transferred your files over from your old computer or did a fresh D/L but I suspect something is borked in the scenario. Have you tried a QD or a free roam to see if it's the spot causing the crash (which would indicate something wrong with the route) or if it's the scenario that is causing the crash?


This is a fresh download of TS2018. It did it on another default scenario as well, when running the K4. I'll try a QD to see if it happens.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:29 pm

Tried it with a QD, and it crashed. Sigh, very strange.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:41 pm

Try another loco.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:17 pm

buzz456 wrote:Try another loco.


I tried a workshop scenario, and still the same crash issue. Using similar settings to what I had on the old computer. It seems to happen near Cresson.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby buzz456 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:58 pm

CASO wrote:
buzz456 wrote:Try another loco.


I tried a workshop scenario, and still the same crash issue. Using similar settings to what I had on the old computer. It seems to happen near Cresson.

I had that issue back a couple of years ago on a different route. Turned out the terrain tile was bad. I suggest you delete the whole HSC and reload it and see what happens. I take it it works OK on your old computer. If that's so maybe you could copy and paste it over from your old rig. These kind of things can be maddening.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby DanSSG » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:32 pm

Have you watched how much RAM is consumed by TS2018 when it crashes? It's only a 32bit application and crashes after using about 3 gigs of RAM
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:24 pm

DanSSG wrote:Have you watched how much RAM is consumed by TS2018 when it crashes? It's only a 32bit application and crashes after using about 3 gigs of RAM
I haven't been watching that, and I thought the game was limited for 4 gigs, and I thought the game was already fixed by DTG to account for the ram useage. I know there is a patch for it, perhaps I should install that.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:26 pm

buzz456 wrote:
CASO wrote:
buzz456 wrote:Try another loco.


I tried a workshop scenario, and still the same crash issue. Using similar settings to what I had on the old computer. It seems to happen near Cresson.

I had that issue back a couple of years ago on a different route. Turned out the terrain tile was bad. I suggest you delete the whole HSC and reload it and see what happens. I take it it works OK on your old computer. If that's so maybe you could copy and paste it over from your old rig. These kind of things can be maddening.


I did reinstall the route, but I am still getting the crash.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:29 pm

I did a benchmark of my computer, since i was wondering if there was a hardware issue that might be causing this, and this came up about my harddrive. I wonder if this might be causing an issue with the route? It's a long shot, but I thought i'd get an opinion.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby BoostedFridge » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:42 pm

I don't feel that would cause the issue you are describing at all.

Because of the consistency of the location on the route where you are having the issue, I would agree with Buzz in that you either have a bad file for one of the tiles in that area, or that the scenario is somehow pegging the RAM limit.

I would suggest opening the route in the editor, and then 'flying' or navigating using the coordinates to that location in the editor. If the game crashes in that same area, then it would suggest the bad file theory is correct.

If you notice a drop in FPS, or abnormal stutter as you approach the area, then it would point more towards hitting the RAM limit. You can run in windowed mode, with the task manager open simultaneously to confirm this.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:44 am

BoostedFridge wrote:I don't feel that would cause the issue you are describing at all.

Because of the consistency of the location on the route where you are having the issue, I would agree with Buzz in that you either have a bad file for one of the tiles in that area, or that the scenario is somehow pegging the RAM limit.

I would suggest opening the route in the editor, and then 'flying' or navigating using the coordinates to that location in the editor. If the game crashes in that same area, then it would suggest the bad file theory is correct.

If you notice a drop in FPS, or abnormal stutter as you approach the area, then it would point more towards hitting the RAM limit. You can run in windowed mode, with the task manager open simultaneously to confirm this.


I did a fly over in edit mode as you suggested, and it does always crash in the same area near Cresson. There is a lot of scenery loading there, that causes a great deal of stuttering, and eventually it crashes. It happens on any scenario incidentally, so it is definitely the route that is the issue. I have uninstalled, and reinstalled the route a couple of time and I still have the same problem.
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby buzz456 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:50 am

Did you re-install it from Steam or from your old computer?
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Re: Well this is odd.

Unread postby CASO » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:59 am

buzz456 wrote:Did you re-install it from Steam or from your old computer?


I installed it from Steam.
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