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Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:32 pm
by BlackJack
Hello guys. Please tell me, why the Horseshoe curve route has no speed limit signs? how to determine speed limits on this route in such different places?

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:21 pm
by trev123
That happens in all routes.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:42 pm
by buzz456
If you run with the hud it tells you when a speed change is coming up.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:20 pm
by trev123
Not always as I have already mentioned.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:39 am
by buzz456
trev123 wrote:Not always as I have already mentioned.

I may have mentioned this before but the world is not a perfect place.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:31 pm
by trev123
Have you only just found this out ? !*roll-laugh*!

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:46 am
by JohnS
In routes with cab signals, especially NEC and NEC: New Haven, Cab signal aspect will change your speed limit. These cab signal changes won't show in the HUD. I believe this is also true for the HSC route.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:40 am
by buzz456
Looks like it's there to me.
HSC_HUD.jpg

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:01 am
by JohnS
The signals yes will be there but not the speed governed by the signal. In NORAC which the NEC operates on says this about cab signal aspect = speed. Clear = Max Speed allowed, Medium Approach = 45mph, Approach = 30mph, Restricting = no more than 20mph.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:54 pm
by trev123
Yes it is quite annoying in a career scenario say on a German route and you are doing 160kph and all of a sudden the over speed warning starts flashing on the hud saying you should be doing 80kph, with no speed marker on the F4 hud telling you to do so.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:03 am
by BlackJack
Thanks for your answers. I don't like to use HUD, I like drive by train as in real life. Sadly that F7's cab signals doesn't work.

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:12 am
by JohnS
BlackJack wrote:Thanks for your answers. I don't like to use HUD, I like drive by train as in real life. Sadly that F7's cab signals doesn't work.

I didn't realize this. Maybe I can fix it !*don-know!* Well I just looked and neither the F7 or GP7 included with the route have a cabsignal display box in the cabs !DUH! OhWell

Re: Horseshoe curve route and speed signs

Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:07 pm
by Chacal
The problem with driving in the cab as in real life, without the HUD, is that you need the same knowledge as a real-life engineer.
More specifically, before being certified to operate on a specific branch or division, an engineer must know it by heart. Speed limits, crossings, restrictions, etc. Also, you need to know your train length, so that you know when you can change speed.