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Using the stock Portland Route (addon). In the Rigby Yard lots of trains present.
If I use the time table to instruct a selected train to proceed to a destination I get several warnings.They indicate that there are other trains on the same signal block. The only way I can think of remedying this is to add signals to each of the other tracks making up the original block. Or, is there another method of making a signal block for each of the other trains??

I have a set of invisible signals that you can place in a scenario. They are not actually signals but a railroad tie. They are 0 head and 0 track, so you can use them to make seperated blocks to have more than 1 live engine. I will try to get them uploaded this weekend. The only thing is you would have to include them with your scenario. That leaves steam workshop out of it.

As far as I know, TS2014 sees a yard as one block, unless you put signals on each yard track.
Some route builders have done this, so that it is easier to write scenarios.

You can modify the PT route for your own purposes, but your scenario won't work for anyone else, and probably the default scenarios won't work on your route anymore. You should clone the route before changing it.

Edit: Bob's solution above is much better.

This is a common problem with routes sold by RSC and almost all "3rd party" routes as well that include moderate to large yards: the entire yard is a single signal block. The only route I know of that is an exception to this sad state of affairs is the VNHRR, which has numerous hidden signals throughout the large yard at Springfield. That said, the warning that two or more trains share the same signal block does not necessarily mean that those trains will not run successfully: sufficient patience with scenario editing will allow more than one train to occupy a block successfully -- until they don't. What I mean is that in an yard without signal blocks, our friend the mythical dispatcher seems to throw the dice every time a scenario runs: some AI trains run as planned, others not.

I speak with authority on this subject because I've spent many hours of this past week trying to bring one of the scenarios I wrote for the Altoona Yard on the Horseshoe Curve route up to 2014 standards -- assuming that there are any. One problem is that the HC doesn't seem to have been updated. Another is that only three signal posts exist within this large yard and they seem to hinder more than they help.

My advice is to keep plugging away, be prepared for lots of arbitrary disappointments, and once your scenario runs successfully twice in a row publish it quickly.

The NERW has lots of signals too.

Thanks for the confirmation that I am not suffering alone - small comfort.

The dummy signal/rail tie sounds perfect. All those signals sticking up looks like Christmas in a large yard.

Dwarf signals are not so conspicuous.

Chacal wrote:The NERW has lots of signals too.

And some of the yards look like a runway. But the AI works great!

Let me reiterate: yards can be equipped with hidden signals (that is, placed underground), which work just fine and eliminate the Christmas tree effect.

I am trying to place and experiment with signals. In the box on the left are quite a few signals to pic from. I have no clue what all these "Codes" mean. I assume first is the Road name then Tall is tall, Dwarf is dwarf, etc. What is 1H, 2H, 1 T 1TP, etc. mean. Is there a chart or list that would define all the meanings for the signals in the list.
As I said I am new to signaling and experimenting, but a list like this would sure help me out.
Thanks for any help you can provide.

1H = 1 Head, 2H = 2 Heads, 1T = 1 Track, 2T = 2 Track, 1TP = 1 Track Permissive.

What you should do is look at the tutorials on the web site for working with signals. Go to the Learning Center and look under Tutorials.

Thanks Bob. I am a dummy, but what is permissive?
I guess I get really confused by all of the choices I see on the menu.

Bob I forgot. I am going through the tutorials. I am trying to signal a few tracks on a cloned route. When I get to all the choices I wasn't sure what to do. Oh, by the way, when looking on the Wikipedia, US signals are not included. Imagine that?
Thanks again for your help.

A word of caution placing signals. If you do not place the "links" properly there will be odd results. There is a tutorial by Pike somewhere (videos) that if followed, will give you predictable results. An example is never place a link within the ribbon of a switch/junction. Ribbons are seen with the mouse over a track.

Found it: http://railworks.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Videos

They are also here and have been for about 2 years.

http://railworksamerica.com/index.php/l ... als-part-1