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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby Hawk » Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:10 am

Pam - Here's an article I just got in the latest release of a newsletter I get about defragging, FWIW. *!!wink!!*

The pros and cons of regular hard-drive upkeep
By Fred Langa

Is frequent defragging — and similar hard-drive maintenance — worth any potential extra wear and tear on a drive's components?

In that ongoing debate, a comparison of the costs and benefits suggests it is.


Is this a case of too much disk maintenance?
Reader George Hernan wrote this thoughtful note about the tradeoffs of frequent hard-drive maintenance — and whether regular drive maintenance imposes extra wear and tear on the hardware.

"Two drive-related items periodically debated are defragmenting hard drives and backing up data. Whether defragmenting a drive has a significant effect on [PC] operations has been discussed in depth. However, I haven't seen the issue of drive wear considered. The act of quickly accelerating, moving, and stopping any mechanism causes wear; moving the drive-head arm involves cumulative wear.
"While a lot of head movement is involved in defragmenting, the movement is only once for each file segment. Without defragmenting, multiple moves must be repeated each time a file is accessed. To my mind, this alone makes periodic defragmenting a desirable task (which I perform once a week with Auslogics' free Disk Defrag [site]). I'm constantly amazed at how many files are fragmented, even though I'm not a power user.

"I use Macrium Reflect Free [site] to back up my partitions to external drives. Because full backups (just 70GB in two partitions) take less than ten minutes and a restore doesn't take an excessive amount of time, I no longer back up individual files or data; rather, I make a complete backup image of each partition each night. Thus, for the once or twice a year that something goes wrong, I can always recover to a state saved less than 24 hours ago.

"I keep a running library of three weeks' worth of these daily backups, though I've never had occasion to go back more than two days. I do use Windows 7 restore points for the occasional time that my computer doesn't boot as it should. I also run Windows Backup each night to do a complete image backup, which, as a byproduct, also creates a restore point for me each night."


Wow! You're really well protected against data loss, George. With dual backup strategies (via Windows and Macrium), you're possibly doing more than is typically needed.

In most cases, a single backup strategy is more than adequate. And because you're using Windows 7, you're actually in better shape than you might realize: Win7's automatic Restore Previous Version (RPV) function can fill in data protection in between your 24-hour backup increments. It also lets you restore individual files and folders — even if you didn't set out to back them up that way! (Check out the June 16, 2011, Top Story, "RPV: Win7's least-known data-protection system.")

So, you probably could eliminate the Macrium backups with no loss of security. But that's a judgment call on your part. If what you're doing works for you, that's really all that matters.

As for drive wear and tear, I agree with your conclusions. That outmoded "you'll wear out your drives!" thinking comes from the bad old days when hard drives were insanely expensive and had bigger and heavier components.

For example, when the first successful iteration of Windows (3.0) shipped in 1990, a 20MB drive cost around $900. Allowing for inflation, that's the equivalent of about $1,600 today! Hard drives were precious and backup strategies few, so preserving the drive's mechanism was very, very important.

Today, drives are insanely inexpensive. Do the math: that 1990 drive works out to about U.S. $80 per MB in current dollars; a typical, off-the-shelf, 1TB drive today costs around U.S. $100 — or $0.0001 per MB.

What's more, most of today's drives are long-lived. I have some drives in older systems that have been spinning happily for close to 10 years. I literally can't remember the last time I had a hard drive simply wear out. That's not to say that I haven't had drives die on me, but as far back as I can recall, my drive failures were due to physical abuse: a laptop drive that was damaged in a drop (D'oh!), an external USB drive that I knocked off a table (D'oh!2), and so on.

So I agree with you, George. Disk maintenance wear and tear is inconsequential — it's not really worth worrying about. What does matter is that regular disk maintenance — including routine defragging and frequent backups (ideally to a different disk) — gives you fast, safe, and reliable access to your data.

And that's a goal worth achieving!

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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby Cardinal51 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:40 am

I was told that Win8 performs defragging automatically
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby Hawk » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:25 am

Cardinal51 wrote:I was told that Win8 performs defragging automatically

So does Win 7, as Chris mentioned a few posts back.

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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby peterhayes » Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:28 pm

Its worth noting that if Win 7 detects an SSD it will automatically disable the default auto scheduling of defragmentation. Remember for the auto defrag to work you do need the computer to be switched on at the scheduled time you have set, so unless you have set up a time at which you aren't rail simming or you leave your PC on and schedule it at say 3AM (think about wear now), its pretty useless.
The built in defrgamneter seems to do a good job unless you need the fancy enhancements ie moving some files to the outside of the HDD platter possibly allowing faster access.
Remember a 1000 defragmented files on a 500 MB HDD is possibly more significant than a 1000 on a 2TB drive, and defragmenting once or month or so is unlikely to affect drive wear and failure. I've analysed my fps pre and post defragmentation and I have not seen an increase in performance in the post era.
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby Hawk » Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:55 pm

peterhayes wrote:Its worth noting that if Win 7 detects an SSD it will automatically disable the default auto scheduling of defragmentation.

That could be due to the fact that defragging an ssd does absolutely nothing, and you could even cause damage to it by doing so.

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001064.htm

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Other-Note ... -p/1412013

If those two links aren't enough to convince you, try doing a Google search using 'defragging an ssd' as your search term. !*salute*!
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby peterhayes » Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:41 pm

Hawk
Yes indeed, defragging a SSD is a No-No (however there are some 3rd party add-on defraggers that offer a SSD "freespace" function as well as supporting conventional HDDs).
With SSDs in Win 7 you usually need to use the 'TRIM' function: Nice link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
Most modern SSDs have the "TRIM" function enabled and in Windows 7 it usually works seamlessly in the background.
Some older SSDs from say OCZ Colossus have an inbuilt Garbage Collector which virtually has the same effect as TRIM.
Thanks Hawk - I should have mentioned that in my post.
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby fraserm » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:04 pm

Hey, Hawk - I see you're a fan of "Windows Secrets"? I've been reading that since the "LangaList" merged into it a few years ago. Fantastic site for everything you didn't know you needed to know about Windoze.

I also had -DontUseBlueprintCache in my command line options and after removing it my problems seem to have disappeared. !*YAAA*!

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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby Hawk » Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:07 pm

fraserm wrote:Hey, Hawk - I see you're a fan of "Windows Secrets"? I've been reading that since the "LangaList" merged into it a few years ago. Fantastic site for everything you didn't know you needed to know about Windoze.

Yep! I've been a [paid] subscriber to their newsletter for about 3 or 4 years now. Great source of information on everything Windows. !!*ok*!!
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby cometcatt » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:47 pm

Great, now I must have gotten the Piccaso update! Now every time I try to place a wood-chip hopper my screen looks like this...

And if I may ask, how the heck do I stop my screen from going Picasso?? Thank you in advance for your help. *!!thnx!!*
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby fraserm » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:39 am

If you're using the command line option - "-DontUseBlueprintCache" try removing it. It was the cause of my problems. Haven't had the problem since I took that off the command line in Steam.

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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby cometcatt » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:59 am

The problem appears to have been a corrupt file, and now after re installing the pack I have woodchip hoppers instead of Piccaso. Thanks again for the help.
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby fraserm » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:06 am

It's all good! !*brav*! !*YAAA*! !*cheers*!
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Re: Railworks does Piccaso??

Unread postby BNSFdude » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:32 pm

It's either that or your DRM isn't matching. That is a common issue too.
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