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Donner pass/Donner Pass

Unread postby jamesphh » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:11 pm

In the std scenario Donner Pass I had run this OK the first time. After the scenary upgrade I ran it again. Service 02 and 03 were static when I arrived. Not speeding. Reached Emigrants Gap and got a red/red. Noticed that ser 04 did not start and that I now had a green/red. This would lead to a standoff. Started from a saved point and now ser 04 was running. The had a scenario over due to ser 02 and 03 colliding. It appears that ser 02 had a "failure" and had stopped. Ser 03 ran the prior signal into a occupied block and crashed into ser 02. It appears that "random failure affects Ai and that the dispatcher can not recognize occupied blocks. There needs to be more portals to offload AI running in the same direction on the same track! And adjust AI start times! And get rid of "random fai;ures"!
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Re: Donner pass/Donner Pass

Unread postby NDORFN » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:43 pm

I agree, get rid of random failures. They are illogical. If you want a failure to add a twist to a scenario, it can written into the scenario to take place at a set time or place and the remainder of the scenario written around it. As far as the person playing the scenario is concerned it IS random. There was a Class57 scenario (from memory) that did this. You're double heading and the trailing loco fails which you notice on your load meter immediately, a note pops up alerting you of the failure and gives instructions on where to proceed to. I don't know how they did it but it worked.
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Re: Donner pass/Donner Pass

Unread postby GaryG » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:34 pm

One advantage of the random failure method is some variety is presented to you when you run a scenario with failure-prone locomotives in your consist.

RW appears to have messed up the random number checking. I think the failures occurred much sooner than they probably thought they would. They also placed too many failure-prone locomotives in the consist, four of six in the scenario I've used for testing.

Before I fixed the randomness, all four would usually fail long before reaching Norden, after I fixed the randomness, in one run, one loco failed before I reached Norden and another failed after Norden. Even if two failed before reaching Norden, I think it would still be possible to complete the scenario but it would be more difficult.

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Re: Donner pass/Donner Pass

Unread postby NDORFN » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:14 pm

GaryG wrote:One advantage of the random failure method is some variety is presented to you when you run a scenario with failure-prone locomotives in your consist.

RW appears to have messed up the random number checking. I think the failures occurred much sooner than they probably thought they would. They also placed too many failure-prone locomotives in the consist, four of six in the scenario I've used for testing.

Before I fixed the randomness, all four would usually fail long before reaching Norden, after I fixed the randomness, in one run, one loco failed before I reached Norden and another failed after Norden. Even if two failed before reaching Norden, I think it would still be possible to complete the scenario but it would be more difficult.

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Actually that is a good use of the failure function. Aslong as the scenario is written so that even if all the "dodgy" loco's fail it is still possible to complete the scenario.
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