Railworks America

Recently I found out that BLLW at some point, had standard pullman coaches available seen here viewtopic.php?f=22&t=405

Are these technically lost now? I cannot seem to find these on their site anymore. I don't even think BLLW is active anymore either so I doubt I'd get a response from one of them.

Unoriginal wrote:Recently I found out that BLLW at some point, had standard pullman coaches available seen here viewtopic.php?f=22&t=405

Are these technically lost now? I cannot seem to find these on their site anymore. I don't even think BLLW is active anymore either so I doubt I'd get a response from one of them.

He was on here as of a couple of months ago. Have you tried all the links provided with his handle? I have a copy of these in a BandO paint scheme but don't remember exactly where I got them from. I'm sure it was from him though.

Care to show that car? Seems he did have B&O planned next on that post I sent.

I had no idea he was still online, hope everything's still going well for him.

They are pretty old and pretty crude. I can post something later.

They were 6-3 Pullman heavyweights. SQUARE series (6 compartment, 3 drawing room). I spoke with him about them at one point within the last few years as I naturally would adore any proper heavyweight Pullman in train simulator, although 3410s and 4025s are my favourites, anything would do (although it is my opinion a section sleeper would be the most versatile (12 section 1 drawing room; 10-1-1, etc). Sadly nothing ever came of it. I truly wish we could get a heavyweight Pullman in Train Sim, and not a coach. Over 7,900 Pullmans were on the roster in 1931, Pullman’s peak year. Certainly any classic 1910s-1960s consist should have a heavyweight Pullman, name trains pre-war, and secondary trains post-war as lightweight stock replaced them.

‘PullmanCar’

Looks to be an okay model.

Model certainly looks okay. With some detailed textures as I did on the old MSTS Converted Blue Comet Combine, I think it could look quite nice. I had only ever seen the PRR Tuscan versions, and the Pullman standard variant (“Pullman Green”). How nice it would be to have these in Train Sim. B&O no less, a mate for my beloved 98.....

‘PullmanCar’

Feel like theres even more missing, I found a few other things on elvastower.
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9466-pullmans-finally-available-at-bllw/page__p__37939__fromsearch__1#entry37939
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9036-preview-of-bllws-first-offering/page__p__36262__fromsearch__1#entry36262
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9561-pullman-heavyweight-6-3s/page__p__38375__hl__%2Bbllw+%2Bpullman__fromsearch__1#entry38375

(yes, some of these may be for MSTS but the model is the same for both versions).

Unoriginal wrote:Feel like theres even more missing, I found a few other things on elvastower.
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9466-pullmans-finally-available-at-bllw/page__p__37939__fromsearch__1#entry37939
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9036-preview-of-bllws-first-offering/page__p__36262__fromsearch__1#entry36262
http://www.elvastower.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9561-pullman-heavyweight-6-3s/page__p__38375__hl__%2Bbllw+%2Bpullman__fromsearch__1#entry38375

(yes, some of these may be for MSTS but the model is the same for both versions).

Those are the ones I remember yes, same chap doing them as well. Pity the Railworks ones are no longer available.

‘PullmanCar’

Has anyone been able to reach out to BLLW and see if these are still available?

Isn't the designer still active in these forums?

KB

For those of you following this here is the documentation I have here regarding these puppies.

buzz456 wrote:For those of you following this here is the documentation I have here regarding these puppies.

KRS BLLW PULLMAN 6-3 Guide.pdf

Quite detailed and a very nice narrative. The only inaccuracy I spotted immediately, was the date of Pullman’s establishment and the station bench. For their time this looks a very quality add-on, that could still fill the void in Train Sim, these days if still available. It evens makes mention of the signal line, and steam heat connections, that is a quality job. Many would overlook those or the differences in air conditioning systems and brine tanks.
If only we could see a re-release. It is my understanding from contact that BLLW considered them to be outdated and in need of a revamp to fit today’s expectations. I personally would take them how they were, just to have a heavyweight Pullman, and baring the textures being upgraded, the model seemed excellent.

‘PullmanCar’

I apologize for the late and long overdue reply to this post - and appreciate the kind words about these cars.

When these were built, I had just taken the leap to move from developing content for a game called Microsoft Train Simulator; into what was then Kuju's Rail Simulator US. As such, these cars had also originally been built for MSTS (much like the original H21as I offered had been), and transitioned over to this then-new simulator when the decision to abandon MSTS production was made.
As such, I had pulled them from the market with intentions to rebuild them to my then-current rolling stock specs. of course, as such, life decided to throw a curveball: the computer containing the necessary software to let me properly rebuild these cars, and continue on the other project cars I had underway; decided to crash once and for all. With this machine out, a change in career, and lack of time to dedicate towards completing these, I've unfortunately been forced into a semi-permanent hiatus.

Wished I had a better answer.