Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Announce your payware projects here. Place your payware screenshots here.

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby CArailroader » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:58 pm

buzz456 wrote:3000 hp. You figure it out. !!*ok*!!


So a few cars then. One more question to bug you: in the cab of the Y1, there are two identical looking horizontal levers, on the left side of the control stand. What are they for?
CArailroader
 
Posts: 480
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:16 pm
Location: California

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby Eirjan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:40 pm

CArailroader wrote:
buzz456 wrote:3000 hp. You figure it out. !!*ok*!!


So a few cars then. One more question to bug you: in the cab of the Y1, there are two identical-looking horizontal levers, on the left side of the control stand. What are they for?

the notched throttle, and the regenerative braking.
Eirjan
 

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby Eirjan » Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:53 pm

Eirjan wrote:
CArailroader wrote:
buzz456 wrote:3000 hp. You figure it out. !!*ok*!!


So a few cars then. One more question to bug you: in the cab of the Y1, there are two identical-looking horizontal levers, on the left side of the control stand. What are they for?

the notched throttle, and the regenerative braking.

"The controller has a main Cylinder with 26 notches and a Braking cylinder with 16 notches. the first 24 notches of the main cylinder control the shunt fields of the two main generators, and the last notches control the current in the traction motor field circuits. the 16 notches on the braking cylinder control the shunt field of the regenerative braking exciter."
this is from page 480 of the CERA builtin 116 "Electrification by GE" ISBN 0-915348-16-0
there's a lot more about the Y1 in the surrounding pages of that book (477 to 484) and how she works.
Eirjan
 

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby buzz456 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:19 pm

Eirjan wrote:
Eirjan wrote:
CArailroader wrote:
buzz456 wrote:3000 hp. You figure it out. !!*ok*!!


So a few cars then. One more question to bug you: in the cab of the Y1, there are two identical-looking horizontal levers, on the left side of the control stand. What are they for?

the notched throttle, and the regenerative braking.

"The controller has a main Cylinder with 26 notches and a Braking cylinder with 16 notches. the first 24 notches of the main cylinder control the shunt fields of the two main generators, and the last notches control the current in the traction motor field circuits. the 16 notches on the braking cylinder control the shunt field of the regenerative braking exciter."
this is from page 480 of the CERA builtin 116 "Electrification by GE" ISBN 0-915348-16-0
there's a lot more about the Y1 in the surrounding pages of that book (477 to 484) and how she works.

Please just shut up.
Buzz
39 and holding.
"Some people find fault like there's a reward for it."- Zig Ziglar
"If you can dream it you can do it."- Walt Disney
Image
User avatar
buzz456
Site Admin
 
Posts: 21086
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:30 am
Location: SW Florida

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby buzz456 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:23 pm

Screenshot_GN Cascadian_47.70868--121.36269_12-31-47.jpg
Screenshot_GN Cascadian_47.71350--121.34091_12-32-58.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Buzz
39 and holding.
"Some people find fault like there's a reward for it."- Zig Ziglar
"If you can dream it you can do it."- Walt Disney
Image
User avatar
buzz456
Site Admin
 
Posts: 21086
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:30 am
Location: SW Florida

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby PNWR1854 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:45 pm

buzz456 wrote:Please just shut up.

That's extremely rude, and no way for a moderator to speak. you should be the role model here.
PNWR1854
 
Posts: 525
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:43 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby ErikGorbiHamilton » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:02 pm

PNWR1854 wrote:
buzz456 wrote:Please just shut up.

That's extremely rude, and no way for a moderator to speak. you should be the role model here.


Did you see the read the posts leading up to that statement? Buzz RARELY gets that way, so if he does then something went wrong, which happened to be the consistent pecking of the other user...
User avatar
ErikGorbiHamilton
 
Posts: 1574
Joined: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:41 pm

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby thegevo5k » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:04 pm

ErikGorbiHamilton wrote:
PNWR1854 wrote:
buzz456 wrote:Please just shut up.

That's extremely rude, and no way for a moderator to speak. you should be the role model here.


Did you see the read the posts leading up to that statement? Buzz RARELY gets that way, so if he does then something went wrong, which happened to be the consistent pecking of the other user...


I was confused at first until I saw the posts the user was making. I can see why Buzz said that honestly.
thegevo5k
 

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby PNWR1854 » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:31 pm

I was thinking the same thing. It doesn't justify being rude.
PNWR1854
 
Posts: 525
Joined: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:43 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby EngineerJohn » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:00 am

On the rare occasion buzz gets that way. They probably deserve it.
“A designer must always think about the unfortunate production engineer who will have to manufacture what you have designed; try to understand his problems.” - Raymond Loewy
User avatar
EngineerJohn
 
Posts: 374
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:56 am
Location: New York

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby OpenRailer90 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:51 pm

Incredible work. As one highly interested in electrified operations in the USA, this one grabs my attention big time. I'm hoping to see a Y-1 repaint into PRR colors as an FF2; the GN Y-1s were sold to the PRR in 1956 and are suitable for backdated NEC and NJCL operations.

And please stop with the drama, we're here to enjoy the WIP shots of this route...
OpenRailer90
 
Posts: 1720
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:34 pm

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby BNSFdude » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:23 pm

OpenRailer90 wrote:I'm hoping to see a Y-1 repaint into PRR colors as an FF2

Paint.net is free.
Anthony Wood
Audio Engineer - Searchlight Simulations
User avatar
BNSFdude
 
Posts: 2721
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:46 am

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby ricksan » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:59 pm

Just wanted to clarify a few points regarding the Y-1 locomotive.

Full disclosure:

As for the Y-1's "realistic operation," the answers are pretty much no, no, and no. The speed control ("regulator") and brakes, including the regenerative brake, are all Kuju/RSDL/RSC/DTG standard issue. There's no custom scripting of those items and none is planned. Enjoy it anyway.

The audio is pretty much imaginary.

The motor generators, compressors and ventilation fans cannot be individually started by the player. Those are all high-voltage components and to the best of my knowledge (which is mostly limited to reference sheets published by GNRHS and articles on the GN Goat site) the switchgear for them is all inside the engine room.

If you want to modify the audio or the physics, feel free to do so.

About the cab:

The cab is semi-fictitious. There's a nice drawing of a W-1 cab at the GN Goat site, but the W-1 was completely built by GE at its Erie plant 20 years more recently than the Y-1 so it presumably has more advanced systems. The W-1's predecessor locomotives were built by either ALCo with GE components (Y-1 and 3-phase units), or Baldwin with Westinghouse components (Z-1). We were unable to locate any photos or illustrations depicting a Y-1 cab. The closest we came was the photo below of an unidentified GE cab, which served as the inspiration for our cab. If you happen across a set of photos of an actual Y-1 cab, I don't want to see them!

Good news:

You will have the ability to individually control the pantographs. An auto-manual switch on the control panel allows you do this. The locomotive is silent when the pantographs are down, but when you raise either or both of them you hear the engine-room components ramping up. In the default auto mode, the pantograph selection is tied to the reverser and only one of them is up at a time. This is consistent with the default panto behavior that dates back to RSC times. In manual mode you can raise either pantograph or both of them at will. But if you lower both pantographs, the loco powers down.

Technical note:

According to GNRHS, the bus bars seen on the Empire Builder version of the Y-1 were added as a safety measure, avoiding the need for work crews to handle high-voltage MU connectors. Adding the bus bars required the headlight and bell to be relocated.

Regarding mods to the Y-1:

The guy who made the Y-1 for Cascadian committed to making only one of the GN electrics, choosing the Y-1 because "it looks cool." He did concede to making the two versions you've seen in the screen shots and photos elsewhere in this thread. He says he also "has plans" to make the PRR FF2 version. (We'll see. I hear he's back to driving RS-1s again.) Anyway, you might hold off trying to make a PRR repaint. The FF2 will have to be a custom model since, though it lacks the overhead bus bar like the original Y-1, the headlight is in the relocated position midway up in front of the cab, instead of in its original position atop the cab. Notice also that the bell is still underneath the FF2 cab porch where it had been relocated for the Empire Builder Y-1. Then there's the PRR lettering for which the decals on the GN model are not suitable. Other details include the single-digit road numbers and of course the PRR paint job.

The catenary on Cascadian is 6.4 m above the railtops and the Y-1 pantographs animate up to that elevation. If...IF...an FF2 version of the Y-1 should someday drop out of the sky, which routes would it be most likely to run on and what are those routes' catenary heights?
ricksan
Forum Mod
 
Posts: 311
Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:55 am
Location: Bandon, OR USA

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby thegevo5k » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:03 am

I appreciate that detailed explanation Rick. That answers a lot of questions. !!*ok*!!
thegevo5k
 

Re: Coming Soon: Stevens Pass 1929-56

Unread postby Brickrail782 » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:11 pm

Do you have plans to release this on Steam, or will it be on the G-Trax site? (Either way, I'll buy it.)
User avatar
Brickrail782
 
Posts: 625
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:47 am
Location: Kansas City, KS

PreviousNext

Return to Payware Announcements and Screenshots

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest